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OP's are fine for up to 28's. That's a good deal. Ambrosio / Nova hubs would be better though.

I've got no problem with OP's - done me well for ages. Unfashionable these days though.

Harry Rowland will do you OP's to ambrosio for 220 ish with Sapim race.

220 is quite a step up from 150

Your point? You suggested ambrosio in the first place - I was just putting a price on the build from good wheelbuilder.

Easy tigers...

Ambrosio Zenith £72
Rigida Grizzly £34
DT Alpine III £25
DT Hex nips £10

Building the right wheels for the job: priceless*

*actually £141 + labour

= About £45-50 more

Or about free, which I think is what he's getting at in the wheel building thread, but I'm sure you can both make an argument out of it.

OP's are fine for up to 28's.

In my experience, 28mm felt like crap on the Open Pro, max for comfort would be 25mm on that rims.

re: cost, part of the self build / master built / factory built decision will be based on the individual valuing their own time versus the end outcome and product quality, possibly even waiting times too.

got a question and don't know where best to ask, here's probably the best place:

rim tape, i have velocity a23 rims 18mm inner rim width and 23mm outer, what width rim tape do i need? i assume 18mm?

Maybe 20mm. The "inner width" is between hooks, but because they overhang, the actual rim bed is a bit wider than that. Depends on which tape, too. Snap-on plastic ones need to cover the whole width to hold them centred, but sticky tape just needs to overlap the spoke holes enough to be safe.

it's this stuff tester, snap on, so no sticky tape http://www.acycles.co.uk/hutchinson-rim-tape-70020mm-pack-of-2-9272.html , so you reckon 20mm?

Velocity have instructions, but that is for the latest tubeless compatible A23, which has a shelf for the tyre bead. For the older ones, 20mm wide snap-on tape should be fine.

Yeah, I did see that, thought that it might be asking here for other opinions, cheers, 20mm it is!

Keep trying to buy a pair of A23s from Hubjub and keep getting forgotten about which is pretty poo :(

email convos with two different people and phone convo with one of them.

Still I'm in no rush as my hubs are still on the orient express, and they are a pretty small outfit so have to give some leeway i guess.

The H Plus Sons are nicer looking IMO, but the A23s are cheaper and can be run tubeless which I'm assuming may be a plus if I plan on using them for cross? So A23s are winning out

Keep trying to buy a pair of A23s from Hubjub and keep getting forgotten about which is pretty poo :(

Get the cheaper TB14-style KinLin ADHN that cost £15.

Or;

Rigida Grizzly £34

Mavic A319 £27 is also worth looking at.

Looking at building up a new set of lightweight clinchers to replace my very worn R500's (and my 50mm carbon tubs as I don't use them enough and the braking sucks down decent sized descents).

Most likely will go with Novatec A291SB-SL / F482SB Rear for the hubs. Sapim Laser spokes with Sapim Alloy nips. Rims I am trying to decide between Kinlin XR200 or XR-19W. The XR200's are ~25g lighter and cheaper too, but the XR-19W's have eyelets and supposably produce a stronger build. Any opinions on the two? (Currently heading towards the 19's as doubt I'd notice 50g worth of weight and a more dependable build is attractive) Most likely to be built 24/28 hole (I'm ~70kg). Weight should end up around 1375 for the XR-19W's or 1325g using the XR200's.

Get the cheaper TB14-style KinLin ADHN that cost £15.

Or;

Mavic A319 £27 is also worth looking at.

The Kinlin's are also out of stock, although they will take your money before telling you that.

A la velodrome shop?

Brass nips.

Sapim say their anodised 7075T6 nips are at least as strong and corrosion resistant as their brass ones

Do you reckon they will be? I've only ever had bad experiences with alu nips. Any reviews after a bit of use in the rain?

I'd worry less about rain than winter - salt spray is the usual killer with dissimilar metals in contact.

I have alu nipple on the CX bicycle, it come standard with the wheelset.

Wheel suddenly taco'd due to the nipple breaking halfway through winter.