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They are rim brake rims

Ah, vintage rims, Mavic de-listed the rim brake one at least a decade ago 🙂

Might take those off your hands mate. 32?

You can. Drop me an email. I found i had not even listed them on the website. I might keep the last pair for my self. I could run my old mtbs tubeless one day. Got to stop hording.

Thanks Malcom. Although I might be interested in those rims, sorry for confusing you, I was responding to platypus.

Thanks, appreciate this but am going to give the Kinlins a try, cheers.

Why am I looking at Mack hubs and Belgium plus rims? Any recommendations for something sealed and wide for my 2021 midlife crisis hhsb?!

Are Ailerons/ The Hydra etc still considered decent?

I presume you mean a disc brake hub. Single speed or for derailleur gears.

Ailerons are decent. used many. Hydra are fine but not really tubeless. tyre fit is too loose and there is no bead lock feature. nice rim otherwise.

Mack hubs come from poland. there are problems for many retailers shipping from the EU. are you sure mack is shipping. wait time the last time i looked was long for mack hubs. Plenty of other hub options.

yeah sorry should have been more specific. Image below is what I've been drooling over so looking at other options that will invariably be cheaper too. I'm about 6'6" and 95kg and run a handbuilt set of Pacenti SL23s to Hope hubs on my road bike and it's the best wheelset I've ridden, so I'm considering a handbuilt wheelset for my fixed which is currently rolling on a factory set of Velocity Deep Vs.

Ah well it is LFGSS I suppose. HED rims are available. We will be buying a pair to polish as well soon. Jamie here is a dab hand it seems at polishing. He's just done a set of new record hubs are a customer.

For nice fixed hubs well there Royce of course. not high flange though. Why not Phil wood hubs? Imagine silver rims perhaps ailerons (they can be ordered but it wont be cheap to get them over from the USA) or polish a set of black ones laced to phil hubs with black spokes. Black spokes on silver hubs is a quite tasty. The HED rim is very nice too. May theres some ideas to tickle your thoughts.

Polished-silver HEDs? Don't tell me the Kinlin XR22ts have run out again... One day I'll press the button on a modern all-silver set :)

@thecycleclinic Thanks. Any other rim alternatives you have experienced? DT Swiss R500db? Kinlin RD 3FT?

No i still have some but the poster is drooling over hed rims.

Those rims are too wide for road tyres. R500db is 22mm internal width and the rd3ft is 25mm internal width.

Such rims were considered wide for mtbs once.

Wondering if anyone could give me some advice. Going to build myself a 20" front wheel on a SD-8 Dynamo hub. I've built a few wheels before but nothing this small.

Would a standard 32/3x pattern be OK or would the small rim and large(ish) hub flange result in funky spoke angles. Would I be better off with a 1x or 2x pattern?

Had a look at a few BMX forums and they seem to build with 3x so I guess it shouldn't be a problem. Any advice appreciated!

And the Hed is 21mm internal, I take it that is therefore the highest possible internal width for road tyres? (25 or 28c for example)

Its 20.5mm actually and i would consider the min width 28mm but other think 25mm is fine. Personally i want my tyres to wear the way they should not thin out in the middle because the tyre is stretched.

2x or 1x. Its a front wheel. 3x of daft.

Thanks! It is for a cargo bike meaning there will be a load above the front wheel. Would this change your thinking?

Its 20.5mm actually and i would consider the min width 28mm but other think 25mm is fine

Depends which end of the bike. 20mm internal is probably more than you want to run 25C tyre up front, but the rear leans less so it's OK.

We use 2x on pretty heavy duty cargo bikes and trailers (20” rim).

Nope. Its a front wheel. It does not even need to be crossed.

I've got some wheels with Belgium Plus rims which I run (sometimes) on one of my bikes with 23s. Never had any issues. In fact, they work very well.

Would a standard 32/3x pattern be OK or would the small rim and large(ish) hub flange result in funky spoke angles. Would I be better off with a 1x or 2x pattern?

If it's a front wheel with rims brakes then it doesn't really matter. 3x would be a bit excessive on that size of rim, however, given it's only teeny. I'd be inclined to go for 2x, unless you're absolutely sure the hub flanges are properly beefy, in which case 1x or even radial lacing would be fine.

If anything that would suggest fewer rather than more crosses for increased lateral stiffness.

Maybe so, but is it wrong to lace 2x?