• getting a bit rapey tbh.

    It's probably not that bad really?

  • I hope you gave him negative feedback!

  • Yep had the silly haggling cash on collection a couple times. I just start browsing my phone and say take your time, and when the haggling attempt starts, say oh sorry not what expected and pick up the item and start going indoors. Usually works.

    Never had intentional short cash though. Once sold a camper for £7k and the guy paid with his coach driver tips. 1400 fivers in a tin. Took ages to count but was spot on.

  • Managed Payments: Received my first and only reminder to switch over to payment directly into my bank account today and completed the admin. Sold an item this afternoon that was listed under a final value promotion and ebay have only charged me £1 so less fees overall.

    Final value promotion: Not had an offer on any of my ebay accounts since 2nd April and early March on the other accounts, so as those promo listings sell through will not be creating any more listings until offered another promotion. Meh. Hopefully no activity on previously high activity accounts will nudge the promo algorithm in my favour.

  • https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373556609100

    Fake enve, seller in no shape or form understand that those are not genuine.... hopefully no-one get scammed

  • The Cannondale they’re also selling… 🙈

    Saw these yesterday also and thought they looked suspect. No hub details etc.

  • https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265141009746 I’ve just ordered this! For collection. Slightly worried about what the guy has done about the gears but this would be my first entry into a geared bike. thoughts?

  • Fingers crossed his bike building skills are better than his grammar / capitalisation skills!
    Looks like they've matched a 10 speed mech with a 9 speed cassette but apparently the shifters work the same as Ultegra because a guy on youtube says so so that's ok!
    There are some VERY cringey comments in the description.
    Personally I wouldn't touch it. If I got it cheap I would strip it and rebuild it from scratch. In your position I think you may do well to at least get a trusted mechanic to give it a once over before trusting your life to it....
    Honestly I hope it works out to be OK for you.

  • Thanks for giving me a bit more info. I actually spoke to a friend who's a bit of a mechanic and decided to cancel the order yesterday. This isn't ideal on eBay but it just looked a bit dodgy and I kind of rushed into it thinking it was a bargain...silly really.

    I am still on the hunt for a similar bike (without holes drilled into the side of it) if anyone has any!

  • Good shout! I didn't want to piss on your cornflakes too much but honestly I think you made the right decision. Nothing jumps out at me from the pictures (except a big cut in one of the tyres) but pictures rarely tell you anything of build quality. I might have paid £350ish and taken my chances based on selling the parts if it was a total disaster. Good luck.

  • That design of Sora lever is exactly the same as the 6800 generation Ultegra, and a 10 speed road mech will work fine with 9 speed shifters/cassette (same pull ratio).

    So it’s not terrible, just a bit of a mish mash. The downside for me is you’d still have to spend quite a lot of money to make it 11 speed.

  • Interesting; my road bike knowledge dwindles significantly past the era of 7 speed. So not wishing to derail the thread too much but that suggests that the correct 10 speed cassette is literally just an extra cog; with the same spacing yes?

  • No, the sprockets on 10 speed are closer together but the clicks on the shifter are also closer together by proportionally the same amount. Thus it pulls less cable and moves the mech less distance per click.

  • Gotcha; thanks.

  • Is there any way to "force" a £1 selling offer? I've not had one for ages, presumably because I rarely sell stuff on there. I rarely sell stuff because I'm waiting for a £1 offer though so a bit of a vicious circle.

  • Timely as was going to come on here to comment on promotions.  There doesnt seem to be any logic to who gets selling promotion offers.  I experienced the same as aggi, not getting any offers on one account whilst receiving offers on another account. One of reasons set up another selling account was to see how affected promotions.

    When I switched to managed payments (bypassing paypal) I started getting seller promotion offers again on both my selling accounts.  The offers I have received are:

    1. No insertion fee. Final value 80% of 12.8% variable plus 30p (on both accounts 2 weeks ago). This worked out better than the £1 final value fee + paypal fees especially for cheaper items < £10.

    2. No insertion fee. Final value 50% of 12.8% variable plus 30p (on one account this weekend).  This is worse than the £1 final value fee. I wont accept this offer for reasons below

    3. Max £3 final value fee (on another account this weekend). This sounds worse than the £1 final value fee of old but with no paypal fees it works out lower fees than the old £1 max on any sale over £60 and lower fees than the 80% of variable (1. above) on any sale above £100.

    My take is that ebay are experimenting and tuning their small seller promotion offers at the moment since the change to managed payments to see what sellers will accept. For that reason I definitely wont accept option 2 above because less people accept, more likely ebay will improve the promotion.  I will have a think before I accept option 3.

    Thought it worth posting my experience up in case anyone else has any insight?

  • I got a 'max £3 selling fees' promotion today, even more reason to fuck off eBay

  • Interesting, cheers.

    When I switched to managed payments (bypassing paypal) I started getting seller promotion offers again on both my selling accounts.  The offers I have received are:

    How did you do this?

  • Via an Ebay message "inviting" me to switch. Think all customers will be switched over.

  • .

  • Same experience as you but I sell more expensive items - £500 plus usually.

    I too have more than one account (two accounts in total). On one, I have changed to managed payments, leaving the other as 'normal' to see how things pan out after the cut off date I was given of 31 May 2021.

    I have received the same offers as you and took advantage of 1. on the managed payments account to see how things work out. On the normal account, I have the £3 offer (3.) so it is to get me to buckle and make that managed payments too. I will be swerving 2. altogether for the managed payments account as why put forward 50% fees having made a more generous offer week or so ago (the 80% one)?

    I would be interested to know how selling directly is enforced (when you leave your number in the listing, to answer questions of course). It would be good to understand how there will be enforcement on larger more expensive items in which potential buyer would like to view before pulling the trigger. A bike for example.

  • I was in the same boat (no £1 offers for an age) and tried to force it through. For example, some uk bargain deals sites show eBay offers and clickable links. Although not receiving the £1 offers and heard about other accounts receiving them I tried to click through separately. Didn't work, I kept getting 'account specific' and 'this deal has expired'. Annoying as fuck because I only sell when a good deal such as £1 has been made to me.

  • https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/buying/returns-refunds/returning-item?id=4041

    I don't have any experience with this, apart from someone returning a phone I sold due to some tiny scratches, but I would reckon that three weeks is too long for you to have to accept a return.

    That's just my personal thinking, and interpretation of the policy above.

    The laptop presumably didn't arrive damaged, and if they have changed their mind, I imagine that you would be able to refuse the return?

  • I've put an item up for sale today which will hopefully kickstart it but we shall see. I'd be happy with a £3 final fee but no offers at all showing up and like above, clicking on links on bargain sites I just get messages saying they don't apply to my account.

  • Sounds identical then.

    I will be swerving 2. altogether for the managed payments account as why put forward 50% fees having made a more generous offer week or so ago (the 80% one)?

    I think they were attempting to encourage people to opt in to managed payments and are experimenting to see what they can get away with on promo offers under managed payments. They make slightly less on the 80% promo and slightly more on the 50%, but thats in addition to the much bigger profits they will make from holding peoples money for 24 hours offset against what paypal must be charging them for payment processing, which presumably they have negotiated down by a massive amount.

    It would be good to understand how there will be enforcement on larger more expensive items in which potential buyer would like to view before pulling the trigger. A bike for example.

    I think they covered this by tightening the "you will be charged fees anyway if a buyer makes contact outside ebay before the sale" stuff they were communicating.

    I dont have a problem with the Managed Payments thing as long as there is no difference in what it costs me to sell. I will suck up the slight delay in sales hitting my account. I think Ebay will try and squeeze a bit more though with their usual greedy stupidity, but if I don't have a decent promo offer available I just don't list anything. I am not in a rush to sell my stuff.

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