Lance Armstrong... greatest doper there was or ever will be

sorry, but i only hate lance for being such an unbeatable idiot

i have just finished reading the biography of Pantani and despite his flaws and being a doper i feel a bit of empathy for him and appreciate what he meant to his fans and sponsors.
looking forward to reading bad blood. a friend designed the cover so she's going to give me a copy, she said the had to postpone publication because of legal shenanigans with lances lawyers.

Armstrong scraps drugs testing plan

• Tour winner blames high chance of getting caught
• Doping Programme will now be carried out by team. Lance Armstrong has set his sights on cheating his way to an eigth Tour de France title after launch his comeback.

The seven-times champion [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/lance"][/URL]has abandoned his proposal for an independent drug-testing programme because of fear of getting caught with a syringe sticking out of his arm.
The American rider, who competed for the first time in three-and-a-half years at last month's Tour Down Under in Australia, had initially intended to bribe the anti-doping expert Don Catlin to supervise an undetectable doping programme.
However, Armstrong said today through his lawyer he would instead fool Ramsus Damsgaard, who runs the Astana team's internal testing programme.
"After a thorough shitting of our pants... the decision has been made to transfer the campaign of misinformation we had planned to do with Don Catlin to Ramsus Damsgaard," Bill Stapleton, Armstrong's long-time agent, lawyer and paid liar, said in a statement.
"Lance has fooled more dope tests than any athlete in sports history and he is certainly the most-hated cyclist in the world since his return to the sport last year, evidenced by no fewer than 16 unannounced shouts of "Fuck Off You Lying Hypocrite" since August all over the world.
"We will continue to do everything we can do to get away with it and fake his testing results. We have the utmost respect for Don, the useless piece of shit that he is, and all he is doing in the fight against doping in sport, the naive fuck-wit, but we faced a myriad of problems relating to getting anyone to believe the crap we come out with."
Armstrong, sadly a survivor of testicular cancer who retired to spend more time with his money after winning the 2005 Tour de France, has set his sights on attempting to add to his record of mendacity and bald faced lies with an eighth Tour this year.
He announced he was making a comeback aged 37 in September, saying he would be joining Team Dopana in an effort to promote a return to the days when you could take any old shit and get away with it.
He has since reunited with Johan "The Juice" Bruyneel, who was the Texan's team director for all of his Tour de France victories with the US Dopal and Dopecovery teams from 1999-2005.
In September, Armstrong said the Dopana team would hire Catlin to supervise a biological monitoring of him that would be altered a bit and then made available online throughout his training and racing.
The American has been dogged by the fact that he obviously doped over the years, although he has vehemently denied ever getting actually caught using performance-enhancing drugs.
"Beyond today I'm not going to tell you how clean I am because I am as clean as a cow's arse" he said while announcing his comeback plans. "I will ride by bike around the world and Don Catlin will tell you what I tell him to tell you or he'll never see his family again."
Armstrong will be riding for Team Dopana in the 750mile (1,207km), nine-day Tour of California which starts in Sacramento on Saturday. His hotel room will be securely locked in the mornings and evenings while the Sapanish team 'doctor' works his magic

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Would also be interesting to hear what Lemond has got to say about it. He's always good for an anti-Armstrong rant.

He's not the only one, Will's funnier though...

Armstrong, a survivor of testicular cancer who retired after winning the 2005 Tour de France, has set his sights on attempting to add to his record with an eighth Tour this year.

When did he ever say he was going to try and win? Did i miss that, have been getting bored of Lance Corp. stuff.

Also jsut read 'Bad Blood' by Paul Kimmage, made a sceptical person seriously sceptical.
Lance doesn't play nice.

i have just finished reading the biography of Pantani and despite his flaws and being a doper i feel a bit of empathy for him and appreciate what he meant to his fans and sponsors.
looking forward to reading bad blood. a friend designed the cover so she's going to give me a copy, she said the had to postpone publication because of legal shenanigans with lances lawyers.

Pantani book is great in the middle two quarters i found.
Begining with unfamiliar Italian names had me confused a bit, but you get used to them.
Ending was a bit boring, and expected perhaps.

Your friend has a fan of his work then, it's very nicely done.

When did he ever say he was going to try and win? Did i miss that, have been getting bored of Lance Corp. stuff.

Also jsut read 'Bad Blood' by Paul Kimmage, made a sceptical person seriously sceptical.
Lance doesn't play nice.

Paul Kimmage wrote A Rough Ride.
Bad Blood is by Jeremy Whittle.
Both worth reading nonetheless.

Begining with unfamiliar Italian names had me confused a bit, but you get used to them.

Damn these pesky foreigners and their foreign ways, eh?

Ending was a bit boring, and expected perhaps.

Good point. Marco didn't like it either...
Hammers head on table

Paul Kimmage wrote A Rough Ride.
Bad Blood is by Jeremy Whittle.
Both worth reading nonetheless.

Name fail, and it's writtern down in front of me :(

I could of expanded on why it was boring, i couldn't be bothered.
Still can't really.

Someone cares what Greg Lemond thinks?

Regardless this does stink.

Greg Lemond is the conscience of professional cycling. He is the last Tour winner who won without using blood doping. We should all listen to what he has to say.

Paul Kimmage wrote A Rough Ride.
Bad Blood is by Jeremy Whittle.
Both worth reading nonetheless.

finished bad blood the other day, really enjoyed it. Definitely became more of a sceptic

Greg Lemond is the conscience of professional cycling. He is the last Tour winner who won without using blood doping. We should all listen to what he has to say.

+1 to that.
He also distracted me from the misery of a recently ended relationship by winning the 89 tour on the last stage, the only time that summer I cried from happiness rather than, well, unhappiness.

And lest we forget, he probably would have won five or so tours if not for an unfortunate individual paying tribute to the good work of the NRA.

Greg Lemond is the conscience of professional cycling. He is the last Tour winner who won without using blood doping. We should all listen to what he has to say.

what about lance armstrong.

i have just finished reading the biography of Pantani and despite his flaws and being a doper i feel a bit of empathy for him and appreciate what he meant to his fans and sponsors.
looking forward to reading bad blood. a friend designed the cover so she's going to give me a copy, she said the had to postpone publication because of legal shenanigans with lances lawyers.

that book is amazing (if it is the one I am thinking off) - you do end up feeling for the guy - he had some amazing moments - but one wonders he really made it back from that crash

what about lance armstrong.

Armstrong failed a test for EPO. He worked with Dr Ferrari who was convicted of blood doping cyclists. You need to do some research.

pantani reminds me of sportsmen like gazza and george best, talented ,adored by fans but ultimately they can't take the pressure.

i have just finished reading the biography of Pantani and despite his flaws and being a doper i feel a bit of empathy for him and appreciate what he meant to his fans and sponsors.
looking forward to reading bad blood. a friend designed the cover so she's going to give me a copy, she said the had to postpone publication because of legal shenanigans with lances lawyers.

I <3 Pantani, apart from his blandly upbeat personality.

+1 about Pantani, an amazing talent on a bike, but as a shy person, the abuse he did to himself in order to bring him out of his shell ultimately killed him.And the vast quantities of class a narcotics, although one could argue that his death was a result of the humiliation he suffered when he was found to have a high blood count.....
Still an amzing talent, and coming up for the anniversry of his death...14th february

For four years I've been in every court, I just lost my desire to be like all the other sportsmen, but cycling has paid and many youngsters have lost their faith in justice. All my colleagues have been humiliated, with TV cameras hidden in their hotel rooms to try and ruin families. How could you not hurt yourself after that?

I thnk that sums up how he was feeling

didn't realise it was the 14th maybe i'll ride up a hill as fast as possible then take some coke and ass-fuck a crack whore while wearing my skull bandanna.

A group of us have been meeting up for the last few years and doing just that. It'd be good to have you along.

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