• I wish God would use me for his own purposes. I bet he's a right randy bugger that God.

    Someone rep Will for this. Apparently I'm not being enough of a rep spreader.

  • [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgns7CXeUI"]Lance
    Armstrong & Paul Kimmage verbal battle at Tour of California 2009 - YouTube[/ame]

  • Paul Kimmage gathers Bradley Wiggins into the Accusing Parlour on Twatter:

    https://twitter.com/PaulKimmage/status/291501449530187776

  • refers to http://media.newstalk.ie/archive Tuesday off the ball, 12 mins in where Wiggo name checks Kimmage and basically calls him bitter/no life outside Armstrong.

    Bit of a disappointing response from Wiggo tbh.

  • Someone rep Will for this. Apparently I'm not being enough of a rep spreader.

    Too much muck-spreading, no doubt. Done.

  • ...Lombardy '88 on youtube...

    The opening 1min 40secs of this are particularly fantastic.

  • Of all the Armstrong guff in the press, David Walsh talking about Sestriere in 99 Tour is priceless, when the press corp were watching the stage & Armstrong takes off, everyone in the room just starts laughing. Sums it up really!

    I can't remember the exact headline l'Equipe ran the next day, but it was something like 'Extraterrestrial', playing on the Armstrong name thing. I didn't catch the allusion, but this was back when l'Equipe was still prepared to question Lance's (or indeed any leading cyclist's) super-human performances. The headline writing was obliquely suggesting that Lance's ride was 'assisted'.

  • I think the headline may have been 'sur un autre planete' on another planet

  • should have been, "off his face"

  • Can some one embed. I'm still shit at it.

  • LOL. That is brilliant

  • Thanks tester.. I can never get it right..

  • I hadn't realised how cross I was about this whole thing until
    Shit, people make a big fuss about road races that use unmade roads in the mountains. It's not so long ago that the majority of the mountain roads were unmade, and Hainault famously went off the side of a hill in the 1977 Dauphine on an unmade road.

    The whole town ?

  • A major production where he can't control the narrative and won't make any money. Wonder how that will make him feel? powerless and weak I hope

  • Will the docu on the '09 comeback TDF ever get released?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1638364/

  • The whole town ?

    Yeah, the whole town. You never heard of the 1978 Essex disaster?

  • This bloke makes some good points about the whole mess

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/01/lance-armstrong-had-an-easy-ride-with-oprah/

    Lance Armstrong could yet manage to emerge a hero. ‘What’s the crime?’ is all he needs to ask. ‘Who died?’ On one side, a lot of people interested in the somewhat esoteric topic of who can make a bicycle go fastest were conned. On the other, more than half a billion dollars raised to fight cancer. Which is more important?
    ‘Oprah, I cheated. I cheated to beat a field full of cheats. You got me. But I used my profile to fund research into finding a cure for the greatest killer of our time. If I wasn’t winning, that wouldn’t have happened. You do the math.’

    Why didn’t he just say that?

    Again and again, Oprah asked him about the lies, seemingly amazed that anyone would ever cling to an untruth. Armstrong, with a winning forbearance, tried to explain. He even went so far as calling himself an ‘arrogant prick’.

    Why didn’t he just give the obvious, and truthful, answer? ‘Oprah, when you start lying you have to keep lying. Everyone knows that. Have you read no Shakespeare? I wove a tangled web.’

    He didn’t even point out that anyone – and there millions of them – who believes he is solely responsible for doping in cycling wilfully misses the point. It may be clean, or cleaner, now, but top-level endurance cycling has a history of endemic doping that goes back to the 1950s. They were all at it. They have always all been at it.
    I am not for a moment suggesting that Armstrong is any type of hero. He is a man who has accumulated vast wealth by shamelessly and remorselessly cheating, and for a decade bullied anyone who said otherwise into submission. But last night’s interview – the first instalment of his time in the chair across from Winfrey – was surely a chance for him to plead some sort of perspective.

    In that respect, it was a missed opportunity. And as much as it is possible to admire him for doing the interview at all, it was notable that he did not yet seem prepared to come completely clean.

    He ducked elaborating on previous sworn testimony in which he denied, on his deathbed, telling a doctor that he had swallowed an illegal pharmacy. And he flatly denied a $100,000 donation to doping police the UCI was a kickback or a bribe.
    Admitting either of these allegations was true – perjury or bribery – would lead to prison. The donation, then, was presumably made only to ensure the UCI could go on fighting the good fight. And he didn’t want to talk about the sworn testimony. Winfrey didn’t push him on either topic.

    He was also reticent on his relationship with evil genius Dr Ferrari, he of the undetectable super stimulants, professing only to the opinion that Ferrari is a ‘good man’. Winfrey let him get away with it, as she did his laughable contention that he didn’t realise how big his profile was at the height of his fame.

    The interview was frustrating, not because Oprah didn’t ask the right questions. She generally did. It was frustrating because we were not seeing the real Armstrong, the King Kong alpha male, the super-competitor, the street fighter. ‘You come into my territory, I’ll fight you,’ he said at one point. But Oprah didn’t come into his territory. Rather, she asked what it was like in there. She let him remain in control.
    The only way to see the true Armstrong, the snarling, bug-eyed, win-at-all-costs sociopath, would have been to step boldly into his domain and, once there, to go toe-to-toe.

    ‘You’re a megalomaniacal cheat who would sell his own mother if it meant winning.’ ‘You don’t even understand what sport is.’ ‘You are a psychopath, aren’t you?’ These would have been instructive conversation starters, but that is not Winfrey’s style. Armstrong knew it and that is why she was chosen for his first interview.
    Armstrong is a born fighter – he told Winfrey that at the off – but we didn’t see it. As he sat in his seat, crossing and uncrossing his legs, scratching his head, straining to keep vast reserves of nervous energy in check, it was hard not to feel that minimal prodding would have unleashed the real man in that suit.

    *Damian Reilly is a freelance journalist based in London. *

  • Ugh, I'm so sick of the sight of this cunt. Shut it down!

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