RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

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  • i tend to navigate junctions as if there were no lights, just looking for a clear passage way

    if i trusted the lights I would have been hit by quite a few RLJing cars

  • Grrr why doesn;t my multi-quote work any more?! Anyone else found this recently?!

    @smilingbuddha: exactly, everyone needs to LOOK to negotiate their way, instead of relying on lights to absolve them of their responsibilities.

    @dj yeah. I like to think of lights as a guide, not a rule, green or red.

  • A world of roundabouts - I love roundabouts - they are so much fun

    I enjoy roundabout surfing like the next person, but they are a bad idea--a huge land take with generally deserted central islands (not all have something worth seeing on them, like an Arc de Triomphe) leading to severance, higher casualty rates for cyclists and pedestrians, and no motor traffic capacity advantage once signalised to reduce casualties.

    Yeah, or four-way crossings.

    Traffic lights create traffic jams, and seem to suggest it's OK for drivers to career toward lights about to change from green back to red, at all costs, trying to get across the junction.

    Of course there should be fewer traffic signals--many are only put in these days because of predictive traffic modelling. However, at roundabouts they are certainly better, as otherwise you get a lot more cyclist and pedestrian casualties. They have to be applied consistently, though--if you look at inconsistently signalised roundabouts like E&C or HPC, you have one major explanation right there why they still strike fear into many cyclists.

  • Merge
    Merge
    MERGE!

  • day before yesterday whilst wearing full enclosure head phones and blatantly cycling my brakless bike on the pavement I past three coppers who all waved and smiled 'bonjour mon petit ami Anglais - which is why I live here and not over there where the filth are a bunch of miserable cunts

    But "petit ami" means boyfriend. Are you dating the three at the same time?

  • I enjoy roundabout surfing like the next person, but they are a bad idea--a huge land take with generally deserted central islands (not all have something worth seeing on them, like an Arc de Triomphe) leading to severance, higher casualty rates for cyclists and pedestrians, and no motor traffic capacity advantage once signalised to reduce casualties.

    Of course there should be fewer traffic signals--many are only put in these days because of predictive traffic modelling. However, at roundabouts they are certainly better, as otherwise you get a lot more cyclist and pedestrian casualties. They have to be applied consistently, though--if you look at inconsistently signalised roundabouts like E&C or HPC, you have one major explanation right there why they still strike fear into many cyclists.

    very interesting - so why do roundabouts kill cyclists...?

  • Emerge
    Emerge
    EMERGE!

    Oi, Richie, what's the rush?

  • But "petit ami" means boyfriend. Are you dating the three at the same time?

    ha!

  • Now I know why they were holding hands -

    So how do you say my little English friend in French?

    LOL too funny

  • Oi, Richie, what's the rush?

    speed is beautiful

  • I enjoy roundabout surfing like the next person, but they are a bad idea--.... ... --if you look at inconsistently signalised roundabouts like E&C or HPC, you have one major explanation right there why they still strike fear into many cyclists.

    I was on NO way proposing that we build any roundabouts. I'm from Milton Keynes remember, and I know how restrictive to free movement they are for cycles and peds. I was proposing that most, if not all, traffic light signals could be replaced with four-way crossings. They would only work when coupled with people starting to Use Their Fucking Eyes and Brains in Their Heads.

  • very interesting - so why do roundabouts kill cyclists...?

    I know you mean to ask why drivers cause casualties at roundabouts--I'm just picking it up because it's always worth thinking of the people involved in traffic rather than the infrastructure that causes this behaviour.

    Basically, they are fast-moving multi-lane environments with a lot of visibility issues. They introduce detours and require much longer journeys for pedestrians and cyclists trying to avoid the roundabout, requiring them to cross at many points.

    Without too much technical explanation, I like this page (from Galway Cycling Campaign) for the illustration of a lot of potential conflicts that could lead to crashes:

    http://www.galwaycycling.org/roundabout/roundabout01.html

  • I was on NO way proposing that we build any roundabouts. I'm from Milton Keynes remember, and I know how restrictive to free movement they are for cycles and peds. I was proposing that most, if not all, traffic light signals could be replaced with four-way crossings. They would only work when coupled with people starting to Use Their Fucking Eyes and Brains in Their Heads.

    I didn't suggest you were--the first part of my comment was directed at TSB.

  • eyes are for texting
    brains are for thinking 'whats for tea'
    just saying like

  • I love that TSB is back. Just saying like.

  • A world of roundabouts - I love roundabouts - they are so much fun

    I heard this is round about is so crazy that insurance complanies won't acknowledge accidents on it. So you're not insured on one of the craziest most dangerous places in France.

  • at red lights is it OK to dismount run three paces and remount...?

  • that's a bloody good question!

  • ^Arc du Triomphe. Bad, but there are far worse places to drive!

    YouTube- India Driving

  • I like navigating the around the place de la bastille, it's so much fun.

  • seems to work alright

  • Yes, riding in Paris is a lot of fun, if you like your speed that is. Motorcycles can easily hit 50-60mph for sections of roads in the inner city, and there are few speed cameras.

  • I like strolling around in Montevideo wearing a panama hat, in the early evening before dinner. But that's just me, I'm crazy.

    I also quite like eating ice cream in Lucca on a hot july afternoon.

    And drinking vodka with strangers on the banks of the River Ob.*

    *There really is a river called the Ob. Good huh?

  • at red lights is it OK to dismount run three paces and remount...?

    ooooo becasuse technically you wouldnt be jumping the light now would you.

    YOU ARE A GENIUS!!

  • Isn't it called commutocross when you sling the bike over one shoulder and run between the lights

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