RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

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  • Drain every last penny from them.

  • He/she never stopped. I really cant remember much. Thankfully an old couple stopped traffic and called for help. I can't really afford another bike at the mo so im going to have to walk everywhere which is a bit annoying but im still alive so I gotta be thankful for small mercies.

  • What a bastard. I hope they totally wrap their car round a lampost and somehow can't claim on their insurance (without hurting themselves, obviously!)

  • sorry to bring the topic up again!
    BUT
    yesterday night was on my bike with my mate waiting at a red leading on to the parliament square roundabout thing when this BNP type guy in an astra behind starts shouting at us to jump the lights so we don't slow him down when they go green. Anyone else had this happen?
    Suppose its a nice change from: "bloody cyclists jumping lights, think they can ignore the highway code!"

  • velocity boy I wonder whether I should be the type of forum admin that sinks discussions on:

    • Red light jumping
    • To wear a helmet or not
    • Brakes vs no brakes
    • Other blatantly flame-war material that really isn't going to make anyone change whatever opinion they already hold

    I can't remember where I read it, but on one forum someone had written:
    "Arguing on the internet is a bit like taking part in the Special Olympics; whether you win or lose, after the event you're still a retard".

    I never mind these debates really, what narks me more than the views people have (all of which have reasonable amount of validity) is usually that the topic gets polarised. I guess I dislike black/white choices more than grey ones.

    Why when there is any chance of having a decent arguement about something..? incl Ken Livingston, are we not allowed to talk about it....? are we all supposed to 'agree' on everything

  • I find that stopping at traffic lights interrupts my ZEN consciousness I am more 'connected' and at 'peace' with myself
    the world and the oneness of the universe if
    I, ergo, ego
    'flow'

  • will yesterday night was on my bike with my mate waiting at a red leading on to the parliament square roundabout thing when this BNP type guy in an astra behind starts shouting at us to jump the lights so we don't slow him down when they go green. Anyone else had this happen?

    Yeah, loads - particularly when waiting in the middle of the lane due to i) knowing I'll get away faster ii) knowing I'll get away safer iii) realizing we'll all be stopping again imminently due to queues of traffic up ahead.

    There's always the wind-up possibility of refusing to move when the lights go green, and then setting off JUST after they've gone red again, but the chances are they'll also jump the red and try to drive over you...

  • the-smiling-buddha Why when there is any chance of having a decent arguement about something..? incl Ken Livingston, are we not allowed to talk about it....? are we all supposed to 'agree' on everything

    Because these sort of arguments turn into the not-going-anywhere World War 1 trench fighting that you'd be better off going to C+ forums for..

  • BringMeMyFix [quote]will yesterday night was on my bike with my mate waiting at a red leading on to the parliament square roundabout thing when this BNP type guy in an astra behind starts shouting at us to jump the lights so we don't slow him down when they go green. Anyone else had this happen?

    Yeah, loads - particularly when waiting in the middle of the lane due to i) knowing I'll get away faster ii) knowing I'll get away safer iii) realizing we'll all be stopping again imminently due to queues of traffic up ahead.
    There's always the wind-up possibility of refusing to move when the lights go green, and then setting off JUST after they've gone red again, but the chances are they'll also jump the red and try to drive over you...[/quote]

    My reply to that is usually "your paint job is worth more than my bike and I have your rego.. do it!"

  • hippy [quote]the-smiling-buddha Why when there is any chance of having a decent arguement about something..? incl Ken Livingston, are we not allowed to talk about it....? are we all supposed to 'agree' on everything

    Because these sort of arguments turn into the not-going-anywhere World War 1 trench fighting that you'd be better off going to C+ forums for..[/quote]

    well I'd at least like to hear other peoples opinion

  • whats a C+ forum

  • http://www.cyclingplus.co.uk/forum/search.asp
    Search for "red light", "rlj", "stopping at lights", etc.
    Should keep you occupied for 5 years or so. If you finish, there's another 1000 cycle forums that do it to death as well..

  • yeah but those forum's are for dayglo straight go'ers i thought that fixed wheel riders where all devil may care and brakeless, but I take the point

  • -steam mode-
    somewhere in June, I jumped a red light at a pedestrian crossing in Lower Thames street, after slowing down to see that there isn't anyone crossing the street. Stupid to do, that slowing down thing, as a few meters later, a bobby jumped from behind the corner and grabbed my handlebars. I should have ran over him but I didn't, too good for this world as I am. Anyway the man give me a ticket which I lost the same day (I am very talented in losing stuff) and I kind of forgot about the whole thing.
    A few weeks later, I moved house and last week I found two letters in my old flat (my old flatmates are also good in losing stuff), saying my fine went up from £30 to £45. bonus. joy. I tried to pay the fine online but that didn't work. I tried to call them but they didn't answer. I emailed them but they probably don't know how that works.
    Today, I found another letter in my old flat, from a bailiff office. A really special letter, as they charge £50 to write those kind of letters. That puts the total of what I had to pay on £95: £30 for the funny man jumping in front of my bike + £15 for the two first letters + £50 for the last letter.
    Luckily the bailiff's call centre did answer to help me get rid of my money, and extremely helpful as they were, they even charged me an extra pound for paying with my debit card, paying with credit card is more expensive. (I'm paying to pay them???) Total price for this interesting package: £96.

  • bummer

  • Arsebiscuits. Better find mine and pay it asap!

  • I consider myself spectacularly lucky in dodging 2 £30 fines in the past week! One for riding on the pavement to get round a bus, the other for jumping a red light on theobald's road. The first guy was obviously quite new, and I managed to talk him down (he just pretended to see a "crime" in the distance and walked off purposefully). The second one was a police car, got the siren & flashing lights and everything (quite cool). Guy marches out all angry threatening to arrest me if I lie about my name (?!). I just say sorry, hand him some ID, then talk to him about riding fixed. He and his pals drive off all smiles & waving!

    I think i must look incredibly pathetic or something, and people just feel bad about fining me!

  • i had two bike cops, chase me (yeah siren and lights) and fine me, after only going through 3 consecutive lights on oxford st?

  • thats why you should wear a balaclava whilst cycling, to keep your face warm... and so everyone else thinks your a crazy guy who doesn't take shit from no one, then no police will try and stop you. and if they do, just give them a fake name.

  • Or, ride with me, and you will be automatically forgiven for anything.

  • asm Or, ride with me, and you will be automatically forgiven for anything.

    do you per-chance have the looks of a 14yr old boy?
    cause it seems to work well for me

  • I dont know many 14 year old boys with a beard smeear...

    I think its just my natural air of patheticness :) And the fact that i was very damp and cold at the time (well the second time anyway)

  • a WPC (is that PC?) stopped me in Leicester Square and 'advised' me to get off my bike and to watch myself around town as they're clamping down big time on cycling on pavements, rlj'ing etc with on the spot fines being enforced.

    Luckily didn't fine me then said 'nice bike by the way' as I set off.

  • I reckon you've pulled there..

  • hehe, she was actually quite cute.
    maybe I'll go back and see if she's there on a regular basis?

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