RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

I just want fine stats.

There's far less bikes on the roads than cars so even if a higher % of bikes do it there's more drivers doing it, no?

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2012/may/14/cycling-red-light-jumping-iam-survey

there may be a link in that lot somewhere

TFL's report says "The majority of cyclists (84%) obey red traffic lights."

That's the bullshit IAM 'survey' that just asked what people do. I'm trying to find actual fines issues for red light offences. Hard numbers.

your a hard number.

a lot of the 'evidence' appears to be agenda skewed horse shit or easily ignorable anecdotal cockdribble.

have you tried ROSPA or DFT?

I just want fine stats.

FOIA requests to the 45 UK police forces should get that for you.

1 email, 45 email address, and Bobbo's your uncle.

Pi

http://ukcyclerules.com/2011/08/22/advanced-stop-zones-enforcement/

has some old stats in it but be wary of them for the reasons in the accompanying text.

There's no stat repository? Do they only care about stabbings ?

https://www.ukcrimestats.com/Search/

Your a stat repository

That's better. Ta

'starch' repository

suppository?

Suppository?

no thanks, i've just put one out.

14% of drivers jump a red light at least twice a month – Direct Line survey, August 2011

10% of cyclists found to jump red lights – Sunday Times operation, November 2013

Red light jumping is more common among drivers than cyclists.

Bez Tweets (on Twitter) linked to a dft report yesterday that had the type of data you are after I believe

^^ 98% of apples said they shouldn't be compared to anything else.

Police van full of coppers when through two sets of red lights yesterday on Gracechurch street. Driver looked very sheepish when all the cyclist started peering in.

The last driver who jumps the lights as they have just changed red is apparently just getting his monies worth for road tax.

Don't know about the percentage of drivers who jump them but I'd say 90% of lights are jumped by at least one car each time they change. This might be shared our among all drivers or maybe there are a couple who do it for the rest.

From my experiences in Glasgow, I would put a figure of 3/10 cyclists stop at a red light. There are plenty of cars that stop in the advanced cycle zones, and those that have their front wheels over the line, which technically are "jumping" a red light but lets get real. A car that sits in the advanced cycle zone imo is not the same as the huge amount of cyclists that I have seen that cycle straight through a set of lights.

More and more, red light jumping by cyclists is becoming my biggest hate. The stats show that it is relatively harmless in the mount of accidents etc, but the image it portrays to drivers is that cyclists don't care about the law, and as such, they generally have a poorer opinion for cyclists and will then not give a damn if they cut them up etc.

^^ collective responsibility horseshit klaxon.

also, amber gambling is normalised behaviour and poses a far greater risk.

Light standards in this part of the world don't give a heads up when they go from red to green, other than watching the signal from the perpendicular road - which is why I was initially bemused by this thread. Out here the far greater danger is pushing late through ambers or even reds.