RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

Uh oh... here we goooooo.... .

RLJ thread hell.

...bring it on baby...I've got me Bible out all ready...

"rest every hundred yards"???
i gotta have a fag every hundred yards

...I'm a 'born-again', ex Malboro(light) read Alan Carr non-smoker...

yeah i quit. hey murtle wanna buy my spare smokes?

We've had helmet threads, and now red light jumping.

This is what the sink button is for.

Honestly guys, just hold back on this. Or if you want to do it, then go and read the 97 pages on RLJ on C+ first.

There is no consensus to be reached. Debating for sake of it is fun but can cause suffering.

And anyway, velocity boy is pretty clear on this and will probably delete this thread if a debate starts up.

And, as for me, I have made my stance on RLJing clear on another thread: The only justifiable reason for jumping red lights is if there is a disabled swan within 15 feet of your bicycle; unless it is a gibbous moon or a leap year.

rubber ring ;^)

this is ridiculous, why sink this thread?

mashton ...... The only justifiable reason for jumping red lights is if there is a disabled swan within 15 feet of your bicycle; unless it is a gibbous moon or a leap year.

LOL. sink the fucker quick and I'll jump off me box.

Because it's a cliched cycling forum debate that only serves to boil the blood of all readers and participants alike, as each side adamantly puts their view across.

It's great to be informed when the police are cracking down so that those who do RLJ can be made aware. But when it just becomes the "do it"/"don't do it" debate, then there's always the archives of Cycling Plus for all sides of the argument that you can ever imagine... including the disabled swan argument.

The RLJ jumping debate is only this far '' from a game of Mornington Crescent. It's all jibberish, that really serves no good and does nothing to help people form a sense of community.

The discussion isn't closed, it's just sunk. It can continue and people can respond, we just let it not sit on the homepage and become what this site is about.

It's a crap debate really. Highly subjective of me I know. But there you have it.

lpg this is ridiculous, why sink this thread?

Yeah, it's hardly a debate is it? Idle banter more like.

benanza you can seriously fuck someone up by hitting them with 80+ KG travelling at 25+ MPH, that's pretty obvious.

I come in well under 80kg on any of my bikes. How fast do I need to ride to seriously f*ck someone up?

Maybe some people are curious to know who jumps reds and who doesn't. So, you don't like it so you sink it? I don't like the lets trade thread, please sink it for me David.

idle banter it is

roll on david k,
woo hoo.
no politics, no religion, no RLJ, no helmets/wearing helmets/fakenger.
we've got enough issues to disagree on, like campy versus shimano versus sugino. more money than sense or cheap as chips. build your own or get someone else to build it, aerospokes or spokes.
Lets have the discussions we can all agree to disagree on, rather than the ones that leave you entrenched in a position and no amount of hostile verbal fire will move you.
can't we all just get along?

Well, it's not like I'm censoring anyone. You can still say what you want, I'm just sinking the pointless arguments in favour of stuff that is positive, cool, fun, collaborative, etc. Shoot me for it.

I think we do a much better job of getting along than many other forums do - FGG for instance...

1/2 mv^2.
Kinetic energy of 80kgs at 25mph = 0.5*80*11.17^2=5kJ of energy

say you and bike weigh 65kgs ...0.565 x m/s = 5kJ ..x = 12.5

you need to go at roughly 28.0mph to do the same damage as an 80kgs object. it's more to do with speed than how heavy you are.

lpg say you and bike weigh 65kgs ...0.565 x m/s = 5kJ ..x = 12.5

you need to go at roughly 28.0mph to do the same damage as an 80kgs object. it's more to do with speed than how heavy you are.

I can't afford a 2kg bike, and what's more, I'd snap the f*cker the minute I put the hammer down ;)

inflation tanks

Sorry about all of this. It was never my intention. That's why I put the "just so you know" bit in the title. Ah well.

yeah, you just posted the facts.

then I dissed the cops.

and then, whilst I've been out at work (running/not running red lights, killing/being nice to peds, and using/not using lights) it morphed into the classic "I do" / "I don't" argument.

not mentioning any names, Kipsy.

;)

I think david is right really

Idiots...

The police in Basingstoke weren't too bad, they were pretty friendly. Haven't encountered a London popo yet.

Only in England do you get police saying "Excuse me sir, would you mind accompanying us to the station?".

I've run red lights before, and most of the time the police have just given me a quiet lecture. This happens nowhere else!

In no other country are they so civil, they'd just beat the shit out of you.

You don't know how lucky we are...

slamm a WPC (is that PC?) stopped me in Leicester Square and 'advised' me to get off my bike and to watch myself around town as they're clamping down big time on cycling on pavements, rlj'ing etc with on the spot fines being enforced.

Luckily didn't fine me then said 'nice bike by the way' as I set off.

WPC isn't used anymore. It's all just PC. You may well offend one if you call her a WPC.

To be honest I've got no sympathy for you ppl getting fined. As road users we need to obey the road rules. Simple as. They fine ppl for jaywalking so why not red light jumping on bikes?