Audax rides

Yes I did my 300 in Belgium like a mandatory route DIY in the UK.

I'm going to email one of the organisers in Oz to see if I can ride his route.

Even if I can't ride it under AudaxOz, I can just do it as a GPS DIY yeah? There's no restriction for it having to be in the UK to get points etc for AUK?

The only restriction used to be the DIY was underdistance for AUK but now not an issue as you can mandatory DIY anything.

Would be more sophisticated if you get validated by AudaxOz and get points recorded in AUK, but only know how that works for calendar event.

Cheers, I had a look but there aren't any suitable Cal events for me.

I've emailed one of the Perm organisers and I'll see what he says. I don't want to just nick his route(s) and claim points for them. It'd be nice to try and do it properly and he might have some good advice, probably along the lines of "in the middle of summer, umadbro!" :)

Yes, one SR.

You were a 400 (or longer) short of doing two SRs.

More than one SR in a season is valid (as far as I know) for a B25000. Indeed you can do everything for the B25000 in a single year (it just has to be a PBP or LEL year).

Steve A almost earned a B25000 with just his rides from 2007 but he didn't do a 1000km ride or an arrow/fleche.

http://www.aukweb.net/results/detail/2007/listride/?Rider=1223

1 x 1500
1 x 1400
2 x 1200 (one was PBP)
11 x 800
4 x 700
12 x 600
8 x 400
14 x 300
45 x 200

Only one ride over 600km was a calendar ride (PBP) the rest were all perms.

So that's 30 rides of 600km or more, 8 x 400, 14 x 300, 45 x 200 of which you can make 17 SRs.

What's frightening about that season (405 points) was he was working full time but he managed to fit in so many long rides around his shifts in the factory.

J71284  AU02    1223    PERMANENT 800   15 Oct  8   0   0
J71283  AU06    1223    PERMANENT 200   16 Oct  2   0   0
J71314  SS03    1223    PERMANENT 800   22 Oct  8   0   0
J71414  AU06    1223    PERMANENT 200   24 Oct  2   0   0
J71411  AU02    1223    PERMANENT 800   29 Oct  8   0   0
J71415  AU06    1223    PERMANENT 200   30 Oct  2   0   0

He'd start a DIY 800 early on a Monday morning (15th/22nd/29th Oct 2007) and usually finish it before the end of Tuesday. He'd then almost straight away start a 200km DIY late on the Tuesday night and finish it in time to go in to work on a Wednesday morning. He's said elsewhere that he'd come home from work after that first day and go straight to bed, sleep for ~15h and get up to go back to work again.

1000km in two and a bit days on top of a full working week, as solo rides, and then doing it again and again on subsequent weekends. Bonkers.

There are some other gems in the results:-

J71109  AU06    1223    PERMANENT 200   18 Aug  2   0   0
J71112  AU06    1223    PERMANENT 200   19 Aug  2   0   0
FC71165 PB1200  1223    PARIS 1200  20 Aug  12  0   11,000
J71108  AU06    1223    PERMANENT 200   25 Aug  2   0   0
J71113  AU03    1223    PERMANENT 600   27 Aug  6   0   0

2 x 200km rides to get to Paris, ride PBP and then a 200km ride home, one rest day and then knock out a 600.

My favourite is this bit though:-

J70941  AU06    1223    PERMANENT 200   23 Jul  2   0   0
N10365  TT24-7  1223    TT24 700      "    "    7   0   0

He rides a 200km DIY to get to the start of the Mersey Roads 24h TT and then knocks out a 700km+ 24 (actual ride distance was 436.56 miles).

There are other stories of him riding an even longer ride (Grand Triangle perm perhaps, a 3400km ride) where he couldn't get the time off from work to cover the whole thing, so he started the ride anyway and built up enough of a time buffer early on that he could go in and do two days work. When he finished the second day he got back on the bike and finished the ride.

He'd start a DIY 800 early on a Monday morning (15th/22nd/29th Oct 2007) and usually finish it before the end of Tuesday then almost straight away start a 200km DIY late on the Tuesday

come home from work after that first day and go straight to bed, sleep for ~15h

How were his shifts arranged? I couldn't do that in my full-time job, I don't get that much time between 'shifts'.

Anyway, I don't care about the points stuff, just thinking of getting a B25000 while training for TABR - I like using the 'awards' as motivation to do stuff. If I can get some riding in in Oz to offset the boozing and apple pies, bonus!

How were his shifts arranged?

Don't know the details, there's reference to an Arrivee article in 2007 so I'll go back and check my pile of old mags (I was a member from 2006 so I should still have it).

I couldn't do that in my full-time job, I don't get that much time between 'shifts'.

Assuming you work Mon-Fri 9-6 type work. Start an 800km DIY on Friday evening after work. Finish some time on Sunday morning. Sleep. Go to work Monday morning. Finish work Monday evening and ride an overnight 200km, grab a few hours sleep on Tuesday morning before going in to work. Repeat from Friday night...

Yeah, I briefly thought about doing that when @fussballclub mentioned the last-minute Hyper 600 SR AAA bloody whatsit thingie but I'm quite happy to chill out and not rush around trying to punish myself just to do a thing that's on a forum somewhere. It's a bit like the everesting craze or beating strava segments.

I couldn't find any info about ELs 1000 (http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/DHU08/). Doesn't look like many people have ridden it.

If I can get over my fear of organising/riding DIYs I would probably make everything a lot easier for myself. I'd be able to do stuff when I wanted rather than wait for organisers or calendar events.

Still want to ride the Crackpot and Maniac at some stage plus the Mille Pen and the Pendle. I wonder, can the Pendle be done as a Perm?

Its not listed, but you could submit it as a diy by gps if you had a track

I wonder, can the Pendle be done as a Perm?

Can't see a perm version of it but...

Now there's DIY by GPS anything can be done as a Perm (although speaking to the calendar event organiser to check it's ok is the polite thing to do, more than likely they'll be happy to provide a routesheet, details of what's likely to be open at various times, etc).

Before DIY by GPS some rides weren't DIYable because you couldn't get proof-of-passage at key places to make it up to distance. The extra 'mandatory routing' option makes it even easier as you don't have to nominate random controls, just stick to the route (some minor deviations are ok, especially if beyond your control - e.g. road closures).

They do rely on you providing a complete (or near complete) GPS tracklog though, which is a struggle for some Garmins.

This is the reason I aborted that Buzzard perm ride last year because the Garmin flipped out in the early hours and I had to do a factory reset. No point continuing at that point. I guess on the longer ones I might use an etrex for backup and be a bit more diligent doing saves with the Garmin. I think that might've been the old 800 which is why I immediately went out and bought the 1000 and an etrex 30x to replace the older units.

Some of the Perms are a bit annoying

"Round the Coast
2260km cycling event starting from .."

isn't exactly encouraging me to investigate it further. Sort it out George! :P

Had to DNS the Anfractuous this weekend, because work. :-(

Same. SO ANNOYING.

Me too. Fucking work.

Going to ride a diy to Whitstable and back Sunday for my October RRTY

Ha, you fuckers should've said. I sat on my arse all weekend and probably would've ridden that if I'd bothered entering it.

To be fair I was thinking about riding the 100k with the missus but the forecast put us off. I'd rather her first audax wasn't a soggy, miserable, gritty, horrid, soul destroying, sketchy, blind corner, wet leaved, laney mess of navigational idiocy.

Save that for her second one. :)

That's a pretty good account of what happened. To be fair though, it only rained during 100 of the 200km which is an definitive improvement over what the forecast said. Rolling hills of Oxfordshire delivered once again (in terms of landscape, plus it was the actually quite sunny bit), and the Chilterns didn't disappoint either (in terms of "soggy, miserable, gritty, horrid, soul destroying, sketchy, blind corner, wet leaved, laney mess of navigational idiocy" (totally saving that for later use))

Upon getting home I had two showers, one with the kit still on, bathtub was full of grit, and then one without, bathtub was full of grit again. Oh well.

Yeah, sounds about right. :)

Bryan Chappers 2017 entries are open. Who's in?
I'll be sending mine off as soon as find the box in the attic i put my cheque book in about 5 years ago..

Not me. Might do the Mille Cymru instead or that other Welsh one. I do like riding in Wales.

Mille Cymru is that next year?