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• #57577
unfinished but i really want a merlin frame
Half built weight weenie? Meh
With a thomson, ti frame and high spoke count kinda half arsed weight weenie
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• #57578
either way i love it. what year is that carbon record from? always loved it.
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• #57579
With a thomson, ti frame and high spoke count kinda reliable and durable weight weenie
fixed.
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• #57580
Yeah, alright Eingang, that Pelizzoli is a ton load nicer than the first one.
Wonder how long I'd have to save up to be able to afford one of those frames...
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• #57581
Alu tends to flex less but is more brittle.
Steel is stiffer than aluminium
... and steel frames flex a lot more than alu frames
Steel is stiffer than aluminium
If you compare like with like (i.e the same shaped objects) the steel one will always be about 3 times stiffer than the aluminium one. Fortunately, aluminium is about 1/3 of the density of steel, so you can use three time as much of it. It's where you add that extra material that makes aluminium the first choice for light and stiff structures where overall dimensions are unconstrained. The first modern aluminium frames (Alan, Vitus 979) added material inside the tubes (keeping the same OD but increasing wall thickness), throwing away the advantage and ending up less stiff than steel frames. Only by spreading the extra material out further from the tube axis did the likes of Klein and Cannondale make aluminium frames both stiffer and lighter than contemporary steel frames. The same goes for stems - quill stems are constrained to have a shaft OD of 22.2mm for 1" forks, so steel will be stiffer because of it's higher sectional modulus. By removing the dimensional constraint, aluminium ahead stems are stiffer per weight than steel because the low density material can be made into large sections.
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• #57582
Ah that's it. I got a little fuddled.
You need more alu than steel to make an equally stiff frame. Removing slightly from the weight advantage. This said (as you say) - A well designed structure can lighter than a structure designed as you would in steel
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• #57584
shite
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• #57585
Orly?
You know what I mean.
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• #57586
Plus, the car in the example is around 50 years old and things have moved on just a bit...
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• #57587
This mixmatch pelizzoli is pretty nice...
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• #57588
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• #57589
wrong thread
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• #57590
That shouldn't look awesome but it does
Fixed
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• #57591
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• #57592
Nice. I can't believe how many photos are taken in the small ring though, takes about a second to fix!
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• #57593
wrong thread
True, but the frame iz butterz.
nearly bought it a couple of years ago from the
(then) owner... I'm glad i didn't somehow. -
• #57594
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• #57595
what a chain ring
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• #57596
122km/h record ;p
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• #57597
I bet that helmet offered some serious peace of mind at those speeds.
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• #57598
The guy must be rolling like a boss ;d
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• #57599
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• #57600
Orly?