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Could they not buy a Brooks saddle with a saddlebag loop on it?

the shame!!!

For actual track use, there's really no point in anything other than a disc. Six Day riders seem to like non-disc rear wheels, but nobody else does. Same goes for time trialling on fixed on normal courses; it needs to be either blowing a gale or going over mountains before anything else makes sense, and then you probably wouldn't be on fixed anyway. So my first question is: What do you want it for?

What about the front wheel? It's common to have a disc rear, but I don't see many fronts although they are readily available. Any reason to not use one for track racing?

Harder to 'turn' with discs in front. The bike will want to go straight up the bank in the corners..
Bad explanation maybe :)

can you really see the font???

I think so. They repeated it three times around the crank and it looks gash.

Instead of getting annoyed, just laugh at them. It's nearly always a result of their putting the bars too low and the saddle too high, prioritising aesthetics over comfort, and then completely wrecking the aesthetic to make the thing ridable by dropping the nose of the saddle.

I have my saddle set up pointing at a slight downwards angle, and have tried it level, but I don't find it as comfortable. I could have my saddle an inch or so higher from a level position even, so it's not a case of it being too high, just that's how my saddle best fits. I think it depends a lot also on the saddle design, I've got a kashimax, and the logo on the side is level at the angle at which my saddle is set up, I think indicating that that's the intended angle. It scoops up at the back which accentuates the the slope I guess... I dunno, just a thought

...Or you could find out if the saddle height is the idea position?

could do cheers

Scorch, back from the ashes.
Merry Xmas dude ;)

ey! thanks and same to you, as well as the rest of the forum lot - merry Christmas :))

What about the front wheel? It's common to have a disc rear, but I don't see many fronts although they are readily available. Any reason to not use one for track racing?

Not allowed for bunch racing, and used only for TTs and team events indoors.

For actual track use, there's really no point in anything other than a disc. Six Day riders seem to like non-disc rear wheels, but nobody else does. Same goes for time trialling on fixed on normal courses; it needs to be either blowing a gale or going over mountains before anything else makes sense, and then you probably wouldn't be on fixed anyway. So my first question is: What do you want it for?

It's for riding Herne Hill this coming season. I'm building a new bike for the road and turning my current one into just pure track and want a rear wheel to go with my front Zipp 440.

So keep a look out for a nice second hand disc.

In practice, hardly anyone uses discs at Herne Hill, especially not low key stuff like track league. Of course if you already have training wheels and are planning racing the bigger opens and regional champs then go for the disc.

In practice, hardly anyone uses discs at Herne Hill, especially not low key stuff like track league.

Yes, I wasn't suggesting that it was essential, just that spending £300 on a fancy back wheel and not getting a disc would be pointless. Navigator Pista at under £200 a pair are ample for local league racing.

Some bugger turned up on a disc wheel at the last Calshot Thursday (i.e. slow people) training session I went to!

That's why I don't want to spend £300 on just a wheel, it would be wasted on me. I've already got a nice front, I was just wandering if there were any old rear track Zipp's or anything out there.

Oddly, discs seemed to appear on the track quite a while before deep section fronts (see loads of old pix of people with disc rear/box section front), so there are not a lot of deep rears about with track hubs. You are much more likely to find an old Zipp 440 on a road hub, which you could then re-lace to the track hub of choice.

Yeah think I'm going to have to do that. Thread derailment over. Thanks Tester.

oh, and just before we get this over with, let me ask you - is this VISP we're talking about in terms of "turning into pure track machine with discs etc"?..

yeah bwoi. No disks though. Aero and shit innit.

oh, and just before we get this over with, let me ask you - is this VISP we're talking about in terms of "turning into pure track machine with discs etc"?..

yeah bwoi. No disks though. Aero and shit innit.

The question that was on everyones lips.

Also, will you be shedding the half kilo of stickers for weight advantage, or keeping them for stylistic advantage?

they are staying because they diffuse the dirty air after it has been broken by the front wheel/headtube an keep the fluid motion of it in constant flux until it has passed the rear tyre.

Yes, I wasn't suggesting that it was essential, just that spending £300 on a fancy back wheel and not getting a disc would be pointless.

I'm going to just disagree slightly here, for people predominantly training and racing on outdoor tracks it's often too windy for discs, especially for light endurance riders (the wind buffeting effect doesn't seem so bad for 80kg+ sprinters) so many people do opt for a deep section carbon job with a reasonable hub. For them they'll get more use out of it than a disc.

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^ put some risers on it and i'd ride it in no time

^^anti

can barspin?