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• #30927
Yep, nice shiney thing, but it's capable - not only good looking
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• #30928
It deserves embedding
http://velospace.org/files/BRIDGESTONE_0666.jpgholy mary sweet mother of god now that is what I call a nice bike
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• #30929
Where did you find this singular peregrine? any more? I've always thought they looked brilliant
not a singular (note the fastback stays and track ends) - take a look here for peregrine pics...
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• #30930
Where did you find this singular peregrine? any more? I've always thought they looked brilliant
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dustkustoms/4097314978/
How to find flickr photo sets: http://curiouskiwi.com/Brenda/flickrsearch.htm
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• #30931
^ Handy!
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• #30932
Sorry about the gears??! BS! Gimme that C-record De Rosa!
+1, the De Rosa is the stand-out bike from that bunch; the rest of them, meh.
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• #30933
+1, the De Rosa is the stand-out bike from that bunch; the rest of them, meh.
Exactly, i'd rather have that bike than a fancy build NJS one..
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• #30934
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• #30935
I didnt know you could just cut carbon like that against the direction of the fibres
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• #30936
You can, and Fibrelyte do it all the time for their carbon fibre chainrings etc., but it's probably not the best use of the material for making spokes.
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• #30937
In fact, carbon fibre is a dumb material choice for spokes however you use it. Steel is better, simply because the spoke a pretty much a pure tension element, and steel has a high Young's modulus, allowing adequately stiff wheels to be built with a smaller total cross sectional area of spokage than other common engineering materials. Since the spokes contribute hugely to the aerodynamic drag of a wheel, getting the spoke cross section minimised is half the battle in making a fast wheel. The trivial weight penalty of using steel compared with lower density alternatives is massively outweighed by the aerodynamic gains from thin spokes.
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• #30938
now this is ^ more like MT's post, not that ^^
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• #30939
Too big.
I bet you hear that a lot!
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• #30940
In fact, carbon fibre is a dumb material choice for spokes however you use it. Steel is better, simply because the spoke a pretty much a pure tension element, and steel has a high Young's modulus, allowing adequately stiff wheels to be built with a smaller total cross sectional area of spokage than other common engineering materials. Since the spokes contribute hugely to the aerodynamic drag of a wheel, getting the spoke cross section minimised is half the battle in making a fast wheel. The trivial weight penalty of using steel compared with lower density alternatives is massively outweighed by the aerodynamic gains from thin spokes.
Total cross-sectional area is for the most part irrelevant if they are aerodynamic spokes though ( but I'd agree with you completely if they were cylindrical). This only really affects skin friction, and the reduction in form drag by making them aerofoils far outweighs this small increase in skin friction. Cross winds would suck though.
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• #30942
I think you are to easily excitable.
Now I can sell it with a seal of approval :-)
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• #30943
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/4618511183_2abbdd5458_b.jpg
GT by Yamaguchi
i really love those frames, and the paint job is so over the top i like it.
i would definitely ride a stars n stripes frame
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• #30944
Total cross-sectional area is for the most part irrelevant if they are aerodynamic spokes though
That's true, inasmuch as a HED3 is much better than a wire spoked wheel with the same rim and a much smaller area of round wire spokes, but the default aero steel spoke (Sapim CX-Ray) has pretty good aerodynamic performance across a range of yaw angles, and you only need 16 of them to make a usable front wheel. The MadFiber spokes have square corners, so they will have a lot of wake drag for their thickness, and will stall at a very low yaw angle. Just a bad idea all around. At least Lightweight manage to make their spokes more or less elliptical, and line up most of the fibres with the stress direction.
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• #30945
^^ at those GT/Yamaguchi, could somebody tell me why did they have to build this tall seat tube all the way up to the saddle? super-stiffness? to demonstrate some extra degree of customness?
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• #30946
I think the are modern equivalent of lo-pros, that's why. You should ride them in an aero position.
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• #30947
but that doesn't necessarily mean the seat tube had to be that long does it?.. i don't get it
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• #30948
It's to keep little people at bay.
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• #30949
http://www.johnhenrybikes.com/BlogPostAttachments/TheSeatPost/070801/Specialized_2008_Transition.jpg
Saw one of these in the flesh today... Absolute cumfest of lightweight skinny machinery... Not my usual cup of tea but it's gorgeous in the flesh...
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• #30950
Well fit!
Polished rims look sweet.