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• #16827
i think the SS couplers are a bit of a messy solution, i much prefer the MTB style removable dropouts. i want a belt drive, but im yet to ride one. i really was a XC bike with a belt and hub gears.
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• #16828
My luck it is to small...uhh ahhh:
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• #16829
hopefully if they make enough it'll drive the price of belt drives down.
Drive belts and the toothed wheels for them are already cheap - probably cheaper than roller chain and the accompanying sprockets in bulk. The expensive part is the means for separating the drive side rear triangle at some point for belt changes. Any of the suggested methods is labour intensive at the frame manufacture and final assembly stages, so it's unlikely to get significantly cheaper with increased take up.
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• #16830
i think the SS couplers are a bit of a messy solution, i much prefer the MTB style removable dropouts. i want a belt drive, but im yet to ride one. i really was a XC bike with a belt and hub gears.
how it's a messy solution? the SS couplers is perfect if you want to have an option between chain or belt.
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• #16831
i think the SS couplers are a bit of a messy solution, i much prefer the MTB style removable dropouts. i want a belt drive, but im yet to ride one. i really was a XC bike with a belt and hub gears.
that's the worst solution because by connecting the rear stays with two bolts, you transform the rear "triangle" into a rear "trapazoid" and you then lose the inherent strength of a triangle. When MTBs normally do this, they aren't disrupting the integrity of the rear triangle, because the seat stay and the chain stay are still directly connected.
the couplers are the most elegant soloution i've seen
ANT bikes here in the states has the simplest solution i've seen, however. There is only one bolt which disrupts the triangle, and therefore remains a triangle. Look closely. This particular photo doesn't show it with a belt drive, but the bike is designed to accept them.
For those interested, ANT makes some of the simplest most utilitarian classy steeds around.
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• #16832
yeah that ant bike is a better design, to be honest i hadnt really considered how it would actually work, i just prefer a bolt system at the dropout to a big messy coupler. sure the SS coupler will work, but i like my bikes clean and minimal. a bolt design has got to be simpler/cheaper to produce as well.
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• #16833
a bolt design has got to be simpler/cheaper to produce as well.
A bolted design could be simpler and cheaper. A bolted design which is as good as an S&S coupler at providing precise alignment and resistance to forces in all axes would probably be as expensive as an S&S coupler
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• #16834
I rode the Trek District when my LBS have them in stock just to see how it feel, and I can tell you it's fucking awesome (and I use awesome very rarely), extremely quiet, extremely smooth, and just overall felt a thousand time better than chain.
Now my bike don't feel smooth anymore as a result, rat.
my next bicycle will defintely be a belt drive, probably a Merican with an S+S coupler on the rear triangle.
Great minds Ed I had mine on order way back in November,I have changed the bars the cables and put some Dura ace brakes on and dumped the chain guard which was a bit pointless having on anyway.
What did you think of the saddle i think it may look better with a Honey Brooks -
• #16835
I rode the Trek District when my LBS have them in stock just to see how it feel, and I can tell you it's fucking awesome (and I use awesome very rarely), extremely quiet, extremely smooth, and just overall felt a thousand time better than chain.
Now my bike don't feel smooth anymore as a result, rat.
my next bicycle will defintely be a belt drive, probably a Merican with an S+S coupler on the rear triangle.
Yeah I've ridden it too. It is amazingly quiet. I'd like to see how they hold up over 6 months or so.
The finish on the wheels is pretty crap and peels off the minute you put a tyre lever on it.Drive belts and the toothed wheels for them are already cheap - probably cheaper than roller chain and the accompanying sprockets in bulk. The expensive part is the means for separating the drive side rear triangle at some point for belt changes. Any of the suggested methods is labour intensive at the frame manufacture and final assembly stages, so it's unlikely to get significantly cheaper with increased take up.
I meant Belt Drive bikes. Not just the belts. The Trek District is about £800 at the moment for what would be a £350-400 bike if it had a chain.
Also the Soho S (roughly the same bike but with a chain - £400) comes in Black. Much nicer than the grey/orange combo imo. -
• #16836
@Kingcutter. I forgot about the grips/saddle/straps combo. They're a nice touch but still not worth the extra money imo.
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• #16837
I meant Belt Drive bikes. Not just the belts. The Trek District is about £800 at the moment for what would be a £350-400 bike if it had a chain.
Also the Soho S (roughly the same bike but with a chain - £400) comes in Black. Much nicer than the grey/orange combo imo.Either Trek are ripping people off, or the District is more than just a £400 bike with a belt drive. The belt drive itself should add £10-£20 tops to the price of a mass produced bike (allowing for the economies of scale in chain drives being ahead of those for belt drives at this point), the splittable rear triangle might add another £50 on retail depending on how it's implemented; Trek seems to have gone for the most complicated and expensive solution.
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• #16838
that tape is amazing!
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• #16839
The Trek District is as far as I know the only OTP belt drive bike that are sold in the UK, so at that price I'm not surprise.
look at O2 with the cost of the pay-monthly scheme of their iPhone, they hasn't got any competition, so they're free to sell the iPhone at whatever cost they like.
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• #16840
The District is only £599, not £800 - which whilst still a lot is the same price as a Genesis flyer and not far off many OTP's
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• #16841
RRP on the district is £600.
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• #16842
Oops too late!
I need to talk to our Trek rep and see what the gearing is like and if it can be changed and what the possibility of making it fixed is and il prob be ordering one pretty soon. -
• #16843
The Trek District strike me more of an sit-up and beg bike than a proper commuting bike like the Genesis Flyer to be honest.
as for making it into a fixed wheel - I can't see any option to make it so, you'd need a differet hubs (as well as cog I think) to have it build as a fixed.
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• #16844
The Trek District is
"Aggressive. Edgy and entirely progressive. The District's where things happen. It's fast, unapologetic, and, well, not for everyone. You either get it or you don't. For those that do, the District offers an experience unlike anything else out there."(pukes on cock)
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• #16845
Oops too late!
I need to talk to our Trek rep and see what the gearing is like and if it can be changed and what the possibility of making it fixed is and il prob be ordering one pretty soon.I think you're better off waiting, it's like Blu-ray player, they cost thousand of pound a couple years ago, now you can get it for under £200.
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• #16846
hipster garage. Someone has a bit of dough eh? (and im not even talking about the car)
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• #16847
Am i allowed to enter this ?
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• #16848
Am i allowed to enter this ?
Through which orifice were you proposing to enter it?
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• #16849
The bottom bracket of course
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• #16850
The bottom bracket of course
Well, as it's readers' wives you're probably allowed, just use enough lube and remember as she's Italian both sides are screwed right, so you don't need to change directions when you flip her over.
believe me, when you try a belt drive bicycle, even the smoothest chain felt a bit rough.