eBay and Craigslist finds

Looks way too crude for a Ciocc, or any decent frame IMHO. Are those pressed dropouts?

The simple way to see if road frame is any good is to look at the dropouts - if they are flat steel with no screw adjusters, like these, then it's CRAP. Good frames have cast dropouts, with a makers name (Campag, Shimano, Colnago etc,) cast into them. Also, mudguard holes do not appear on quality race bikes. There are plenty of exceptions, but those rules will get you started.

A bit yes. Also unclear if shimano body as he writes 9-10 speed when the campagnolo body would go to 11….

Would prefer Hyperons - and can probably be had for half the price!

No idea if this is legit. https://www.facebook.com/share/1BKE5mMjET/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Looks way too crude for a Ciocc

I agree, I've owned a few Ciocc frames over the years, and the seat stays / seat post join looks nothing like any of them I've had.

I might be off, but I don't remember any ever having lugged forks like those either, and certainly never mudguard mounts on the frame of the forks.

(caveat, could have just been the ones I had)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116436950793

Usual eBay hyperbole nonsense: "almost mint" and "barely used" etc.

"One half of the top cross strap clasp is missing" (No photo showing this, of course...)

Probably worth sending them an offer for £120 / £130.

I have two already so don't need another.

This has been on my watchlist and the seller sent an offer of £40.

Raleigh m trax ti f and f
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204956514572?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=EAygNnXQSbi&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Cm7mxiHYSR6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Looks like a nice workshop.

Large Roberts in Harrow

https://www.facebook.com/share/19fGnSWFjT/?mibextid=wwXIfr

This Genesis Brixton looks a great commuter for the money https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256771230587?

Watch out for Alfine hubs, they have a design flaw in that if the DS bearing get's dry/rusty there is no way to fix it. I can't believe it's not a well known issue, I've seen 50% (of about 20) die this way.

Didn’t know! Shame as IG for non rohloff money would be great for low maintenance riding