why is it always the same people on this forum who do shit like this though? At least people like snottyotter are funny and witty which is fair enough and is in the good spirit of this forum. Dancing James and his ilk are just nasty little people spouting nasty smallminded shit about stuff that has been put to bed literally years ago.
The only conclusion you can make is that these are keyboard warriors who would shit it and never say anything like what they say here to Dani Foffa's face. These knobheads thrive on putting other people down and trying to fuck with peoples livelihoods in order to make themselves feel important. Sure Foffa is misguided in his attempts to come on and defend his livelihood but you can see why he wants to and these assholes are hellbent on destroying his reputation.
The thing is, its really not just about Foffa, this happens all over the place on this forum and its always the same people. These people are wankers
I'm not sure which bracket you put me in and I don't really care-any time I've responded in this thread it's in the light of some new and bizarre posting from Danni a la £3000 foffa. 'Hellbent on destroying his reputation'? You'd think he was that himself.
One thing I find strange about your logic-and as someone who knows a couple of people starting their own framebuilding workshops and turning out nice custom bikes for not much more than Foffa charge for a mish-mash of generic anodized parts or cromor frames-is that his 'business strategy' or offering a choice of colours and calling it bespoke or custom and charging equivalent costs as the real deal is taking money out of the pool that these other businesses are feeding from.
He's previously compared his wares to Condor, and of course H+Son, to validate pricing whilst ignoring the fact that both these companies put back into cycling and have released products from scratch to build their brands. Do I think that Foffa's Hi-Pro or whatever the fuck it is deserves commercial success based on innovation, style, design or technical performance? Fuck no.
If you've got an opinion to the contrary then by all means express it, but if you're only way to argue your point is to say that everyone who criticises foffa is a nasty cunt then it's not a very sound argument and makes you yourself sound like a wanker, albeit one of a different flavour.
I think more, not fewer, successful bike companies would be a good thing, competition and choice are good for the consumer.
All very true but not endlessly regurgitating the same empty platitudes at the people to whom you should be trying to sell your wares to as if they are (in B+D parlance) 'two bob mug cunts' is an excellent way to get ahead in business and make sure your brand is successful, and it's probably the thing that's most fucked people off on here when it would otherwise all have slipped into the moist and accommodating anals of lfgss history.
I'm not sure which bracket you put me in and I don't really care-any time I've responded in this thread it's in the light of some new and bizarre posting from Danni a la £3000 foffa. 'Hellbent on destroying his reputation'? You'd think he was that himself.
One thing I find strange about your logic-and as someone who knows a couple of people starting their own framebuilding workshops and turning out nice custom bikes for not much more than Foffa charge for a mish-mash of generic anodized parts or cromor frames-is that his 'business strategy' or offering a choice of colours and calling it bespoke or custom and charging equivalent costs as the real deal is taking money out of the pool that these other businesses are feeding from.
He's previously compared his wares to Condor, and of course H+Son, to validate pricing whilst ignoring the fact that both these companies put back into cycling and have released products from scratch to build their brands. Do I think that Foffa's Hi-Pro or whatever the fuck it is deserves commercial success based on innovation, style, design or technical performance? Fuck no.
If you've got an opinion to the contrary then by all means express it, but if you're only way to argue your point is to say that everyone who criticises foffa is a nasty cunt then it's not a very sound argument and makes you yourself sound like a wanker, albeit one of a different flavour.
All very true but not endlessly regurgitating the same empty platitudes at the people to whom you should be trying to sell your wares to as if they are (in B+D parlance) 'two bob mug cunts' is an excellent way to get ahead in business and make sure your brand is successful, and it's probably the thing that's most fucked people off on here when it would otherwise all have slipped into the moist and accommodating anals of lfgss history.