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A Journey of Discovery: Front End Geometry - Jan Heine

The Singer have similar handling characteristic to my Oak.

That's interesting as my Serotta feels both more stable yet also more direct than my other bikes.

Going to have a quick check on the CSI geometry to see what you meant, my Oak have 35mm of trail with a 72 degree headtube.

Just to say, I'm not sure if anyone has posted any info about the 650b bike discussed above, apologies if they have. But a bit of research tells me that it's an Elephant Bikes National Forest Explorer and the frame will set you back $1585.

I was wondering about that frame, thank, very tempted by it as I can simply swap the component of the Genesis CdF into that.

Dammit, found geo chart, made no mention of the fork trail and I can't be bothered to work it out.

Not sure of the lingo here, rake is 43mm, I'm guessing that is not the same as trail?

Diagram should help;

Quick calculation tell me your trail is around 53mm, could be very, very wrong.

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php

54mm

Thank for that, a really useful website.

System Six is 56mm according to that site- not exactly a massive difference?

Oak;

72 Headtube.
69mm fork rake.
35mm trail.

Very interesting and helpful.

It's kinda like asking why people prefer a saddlebag over two panniers on the rear, it make sense on a day-to-day basis.

FWIW* I've gone from preferring a Carradice saddlebag on my commuter to a single rear pannier for the space, the lower CoG and the lack of bounce from the saddlebag rack.

*I've calculated this to be somewhere between "nowt" and "fuck nothing"

To be fair, it's quite hard to stop a Carradice bag from skipping, the bikepacking option is definitely a better alternative to a pannier/rack.

Ed, does the bagman 2 version of the carradice rack not eliminate the bounce?

I'll be able to answer my own question later in the week as I have recently ordered one but not fitted it yet.

Upside down light isn't very functional

How can you tell it's not one of the edelux lights designed to be used upside down?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7mLgo7KDdOE/UrHlAWv_c8I/AAAAAAAARbI/esA7hPzsCdY/s1600/image2.jpeg

http://handlebard.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/DSF15591.jpg

How can you tell it's not one of the edelux lights designed to be used upside down?

Even if, it dont matter as a large part of the light output will only illuminate the wheel and the guard.

Yeah that does surely have to be an issue

That is fucking RAD.
GT used to make some amazing bicycles.

They used to make touring bike too back in 2011;

Currently they sell this;

Not in the UK I'll bet.

I've got my eye on an old gt cross frame actually, but it'd a bit over priced

panniers are a hassle for city riding if you have to leave the bike on the street - it's a faff to take them off whenever you leave the bike. Rack + normal bag + bungy is far more practical.