• It's interesting reading this thread from the start. You see that there are actually very few bikes that fit the brief, pacer, all-city, and the osprey.

    Personally I like the idea of something more modern like the All-City or a Condor Fratello.

    I started to have doubts about the All-City. Partly the PF30 thing. But I also read a couple of reviews that questioned the quality of its handling a bit. The Osprey certainly has nicer geometry IMO.

    The Fratello is definitely a nice bike (I built one up for a friend), but it's a bit pricey next to the others. And I'm not totally convinced about the image. Or the sloping top tube.

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