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It's a shame the chain length meant I couldn't have it totally slammed, but is still a good inch and a half tighter than the Holdsworth! Rides so differently, the frame is so much stiffer, but the carbon forks just soften everything up, it's quite amazing how much smoother it feels. Might need to get a shorter stem though as a concession to my ever-present HTFU/lifetime of back problems dilemma.