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Just for info - there seems to be a lot of mention of 'Theft', 'Handling Stolen Goods' and Police type stuff. I would suggest that without knowing the full story the comments are not helpful. The whole Police aspect is based on ownership of the items and from what I gather from the posts, that is not clear. The Police cannot act without having an owner to make an allegation.

That does not preclude Rapha attempting to recover items via the civil courts - how that would be done, would be very interesting and although Rapha kit is expensive, solicitors fees would dwarf the cost of the kit.

On some of the items it is very clear that the had no right to them.

On some more of the items, I am not party to any employment contracts that would clarify the status but I am assured that there is an understanding (I don't know whether that is written or not) that items supplied as uniform is for personal use only.

On the remaining items, it is plausible that they are legitimate still.

The fact that there are any items that it is beyond doubt about (and there are some) is worrying. And as it's clear that some items certainly do belong to Rapha still, then what other phrase would you use to describe the fact that someone has passed them on to a third party, who is then selling them? That is the essence of the phrase "passing on or handling stolen goods".

I'm very willing to remain in the world of plausible deniability and repeat that Hunterlar really did believe he acquired the items legitimately. But now it's extremely clear that the provenance of some items is not as he believed, he has to act accordingly.

And, if he now continues to sell items whose provenance is in doubt, then that is a really dumb thing for him to do.

Why the back and forth... I've no idea. At this point it's pretty clear. So let me repeat it:

Rapha have confirmed that some items never left their ownership.
Rapha have confirmed that uniforms were for personal use only.
Rapha have confirmed that "over half" of the items sold (or being sold) remain their property.

Couch the phrasing however you like, but I really will not have such items sold on the site. And I've given benefit of doubt to Hunterlar but if he continues to push me on it, then I will be the one that gathers all of the evidence together and will go to the police.

There's no way in hell I'm going to allow stolen property to be sold on this site with my knowledge, and in the age of doing everything digitally it's not like there isn't a wealth of factual evidence on this site as this is where Hunterlar's transactions were conducted.

Hunterlar needs to halt all activity, and seriously consider returning the named items in the post to Rapha if those are still in his possession.

Otherwise, a shit-storm really will be unleashed. I only have control over this site, but this is where Hunterlar conducted his transactions. I have nothing to do with the or Rapha, and if Rapha choose to take any action or pursue it any way then it would be up to them alone. I would support anything they chose to do.