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@Dammit
This is why I am concerned about fit- I used to like snug fitting gloves, but have gone from a large Medium to XXXL in winter gloves in order to allow the insulation to work/not form a thermal bridge through the fabric by compressing the insulation.
Anyway- wore the gloves (no liners) this morning and thay fit very well- and bloody hell they are warm, far too warn for todays 16 degrees.