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• #27
it only lasted a year.... so a £40 halo may have worked out better value in the end
(or i need to clean my chains more)
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• #28
in less than a year?
thats either hella mileage or not-great steel handling by WI
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• #29
No, it mean he haven't replaced the chain when it starting to wear out.
(or i need to replace my chains more)
ftfy, don't forget to replace the chainring as well.
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• #30
reason i changed the dicta this bike came with was that its 3/32"
the Regina is full 1/8"
these Whites are also 3/32"
and as u can see from a pic above, the pawls are not on chainline
Token pawls are directly under the teeth, its part of their marketing spiel
dunno how much it matters
their spares would also be harder to access
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• #31
^yep, White Industry, I have been running one since 2006, SS off road.
SS off road eh
what sizes front/rear out of interest?
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• #32
hnnng
this aint trivial
the WI cant be disassembled off-wheel
it needs to be mounted on a hub, to get the lockring loosened, using that pinspanner
then it wants final lockring removal off the hub, to do the outer-ring swap
small problem
nobody near me has the correct remover for the freewheel im replacing
tho i can debuild that one, get it off the hub, using the lead or brass jawcovers i have for my 6" Record vise, after i get THAT lockring off, abandoning the presumably 1/8" ballbearings
without knackering it, hopefully
quelle fartabout
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• #33
it only lasted a year.... so a £40 halo may have worked out better value in the end
(or i need to clean my chains more)That's mental. My cheap shit one on my BMX lasted 20 years.
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• #34
I used to use a vice + a set of pin pliers and a hammer to undo freewheels similar to this. Never had the right tools. They weren't worth £40 though. :)
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• #35
3 chains this year, 1 chainring, and 1 WI.... 40miles a day, but still.......must be doing something wrong.
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• #36
chainline's a little off? chainring/freewheel's already too worn for original chain? chain's too tight? etc.
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• #37
the Reginas only been on for a few days, on well-greased threads
back in the day, reginas were well-known for soft inners
tho its the 5-speed blocks i was familiar with, i never saw singlespeed freewheels back then
i think its innard held in lead jawcovers in the vise, using leverage from the rim, should be fine
if i dont damage the centre and i get a pack of 1/8" or whatever ballbearings its got, i can rebuild it
later
without cycling to Clapham
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• #38
so after i get the regina off, i can put the WI on
itsa 17t so the chainlength should be ok
i dont have chainwhip to tighten it tho
i can ride round the block once, including the steep bit of Haverstock Hill [the bit before the steeles]
come home, undo the lockring a bit
the partially undone lockring helps to locate the 4-dog Cyclo tool
then follow the online book of words http://0302.nccdn.net/1_5/2d8/2b5/38f/Freewheel_Disassembly.pdf
unless of course im blindingly happy with 44x17, on that same steepest bit of Haverstock Hill particularly
in which case i may nostalgically carry on to return down Highgate Hill
we used to hit a good rate of mph goin down that
goin up it gets harder towards the top
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• #39
White freewheels are overpriced, Overhyped shit that mugs with too much money buy to show off and feel superior,
Shimano MX,
tub of grease. melt grease until it thins in small saucepan,
drop in freewheel,
allow to cool/thicken,
remove freewheel, clean off excess grease,re-fit,
good to go for a few years at least,
I've got a shimano MX hear thats still running like clockwork after 20 years.
It's one of the only decent products Shitmano have ever made.
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• #40
i was going to get Sturmeys in a few sizes, maybe a Shimano also
to get an easily variable gearing
which i will need during [+after] my upcoming sessions of radio + chemo therapy
im totally taken by the full 100% rebuildability of the White Ind
i have one in hand now, its not-crap, at all
if i was fabricating these id want similar money for parts
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• #41
White freewheels are overpriced, Overhyped shit that mugs with too much money buy to show off and feel superior,
Shimano MX,
tub of grease. melt grease until it thins in small saucepan,
drop in freewheel,
allow to cool/thicken,
remove freewheel, clean off excess grease,re-fit,
good to go for a few years at least,
I've got a shimano MX hear thats still running like clockwork after 20 years.
It's one of the only decent products Shitmano have ever made.
well, i cant agree with the first statement
im retired and on a fixed income
but i can spend where i want, its my choice
cheers for speaking up for Shimano tho, i aint actually handled one but the pics look ok + in my own experience Shimano kit seemed to mostly work
that greasebath sounds like a ok maintenance regime
tho i did actually prefer Dura-Ace myself iirc, back in the day
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• #42
Quote:
Originally Posted by adroit
^yep, White Industry, I have been running one since 2006, SS off road.SS off road eh
what sizes front/rear out of interest?
I am still running it! I have changed the chain many times, budget KMC ones but the freewheel still hasn't been off.
When I first went SS I had three Shimano ones fail, the pawls stuck, and I had no drive. Each time was in a race, each time the shop replaced them, but then I bought WI one and have never even removed it.
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• #43
The sticking paw is the main issues I found with those shimano cog, usually fixed by spraying a dose of WD40 on it, or pee.
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• #44
3 chains this year, 1 chainring, and 1 WI.... 40miles a day, but still.......must be doing something wrong.
That's sounds like excessive wear unless you're replacing them well before being toast (unlike some of us, cough cough).
Do you clean and lube your drivetrain regularly?
How's the chainline? Chain tension?
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• #45
It's one of a massive amount of decent products Shitmano makes.
ftfy
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• #46
The sticking paw is the main issues I found with those shimano cog, usually fixed by spraying a dose of WD40 on it, or pee.
That'll clear out the thin grease though so it'll work for a while but then wear out quicker as you'll end up with no lube inside. Good for a quick fix but you should rebuild if it's that bad.
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• #47
Quote:
Originally Posted by adroit
^yep, White Industry, I have been running one since 2006, SS off road.I am still running it! I have changed the chain many times, budget KMC ones but the freewheel still hasn't been off.
When I first went SS I had three Shimano ones fail, the pawls stuck, and I had no drive. Each time was in a race, each time the shop replaced them, but then I bought WI one and have never even removed it.
I usually use 32 / 18, sometimes 34 if dry, and I am fit. I may go to 30 soon though.ah, interesting, cheers
i cant get to the 30s at all on the front without replacing bb/crankset, which im not prepared to do atm
currently im new KMC chain, new TA 44t + a blank chainguard ting
i could get to 42t on the front, im lookin at a Goldtec .. dont really want to yet tho
and im not even close to fit
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• #48
.. and gah
im not only unfit, i cant effin move the lockring on the Regina, cant get leverage [wheres my 2-foot scafflepole]
after having devised a plot to finish removing it in the vise without damaging it n all ..
round the LBS id better go
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• #49
well ..
respect to the younger mechanic at Lunar Cycles in Kentish Town
he got the Regina off without major insult [the thing is much older than him]
- reassembled it so it looks works
- loosened the lockring on the WI
which involved putting the WI on the hub
- tightening it on there enough to loosen the lockring a bit [with my pin-spanner]
- loosened the WI on the hub again
so now i have a partially debuilt WI in a box
it wants a clean
it wants the [actually a bit weedy-lookin tbh] sealed-bearing pressing-out of the 17t chainring and pressing-in to the 20t chainringwhat could possibly go wrong
- reassembled it so it looks works
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• #50
rebuilded :: goin back on the bike momentarily
customerfacing side
obverse
How many cheap units could you have gone through for that?