Doping

The bio passport as it is currently implemented is concerned with keeping your numbers within thresholds based on your baseline blood values only ; it does not flag suspicious patterns within those thresholds.

It stops all out super doping/transfusions but micro-dosing and mini transfusions are designed to avoid that.

The testing you say? What testing would that be?

That's not right. The whole point of the passport is to make suspicious patterns visible to the testers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_passport#Cyclists_sanctioned_on_the_basis_of_their_biological_passport

Maybe why he "accidentally" missed a doping control visit the day after the final stage... ?

He didn't miss it though. They lost him. Paid off Idiots.

That's not right. The whole point of the passport is to make suspicious patterns visible to the testers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_passport#Cyclists_sanctioned_on_the_basis_of_their_biological_passport

Nope, they were all targetted for testing after breaching the limits set in their bio passport and being flagged by the software.
Then and only then is the passport data handed over from the UCI passport unit for examination by the UCI passport expert panel. No breachy, no review, no testy.

Thats why Armstrongs 2009 passport data was never sent for review. We only got to see it because he released it as Horner has and it looks dodgy as fuck but it doesn't flag the passport software.

Engineering it all out:

1. All riders must stay in the same hotel
   
2. Doctors only allowed to store their materials and equipment and carry out their duties within a designated monitored room.
   
3. Ouside of that room, all non-first-aid materials not in the process of being transported to the next monitored room by deignated officials is deemed contraband.
   
4. All bags taken into the rider space to be checked.
   
5. Essentially, security and logistics for the race organiser becomes a major issue.
   
   

Formula One Management already manages cargo and personnel transport for all participants and the paddock is a controlled space, so it becomes easier for them to monitor for equipment cheating: if team personnel brings in parts outside of the main logistics cycle you can add extra checks of those parts during Parc Ferme.

At least the riders don't ride along miles of open road where they might have things passed to them.

Nope, they were all targetted for testing after breaching the limits set in their bio passport and being flagged by the software.
Then and only then is the passport data handed over from the UCI passport unit for examination by the UCI passport expert panel. No breachy, no review, no testy.

Thats why Armstrongs 2009 passport data was never sent for review. We only got to see it because he released it as Horner has and it looks dodgy as fuck but it doesn't flag the passport software.

So Horner releasing his passport data is totally meaningless because the outside world doesn't have his own or the average athlete's high/low values, baseline values, whatever you want to call them?

I really don't understand any of the science behind this anymore. I declare Horner innocent.

*desired effect achieved possibly

Correct

@veloclinic guy did acomparison of LA's data to the limits set for 2 anonymous cyclists whose profiles were used in a presentation by someone at UCI and you could see his numbers were breaching subject A's thresholds but were within subject B's.

At least the riders don't ride along miles of open road where they might have things passed to them.

Based on the mentions of "vials in the refrigerator" and the syringes mockingly chalked on the road, I was assuming that the materials would be difficult to covertly distribute and use.

I really don't understand any of the science behind this anymore. I declare Horner innocent.

*desired effect achieved possibly

Good of you to admit it. Not many do understand it, but it doesn't stop them analysing flawed data and pronouncing judgement on the riders because of it.

In short, the passport is not far short of worthless.

They all do it,

They always have, right from the earliest days of competetive cycling folks have been eating,taking and shooting stuff to make them go faster,

And they still are,
all of them,

Lance Armstrong only did what the rest of the peleton were doing,
No one won those races for him, his lungs, his legs won those tours,

I genuinely think all this "doping" malarky should be swept aside, they're all at it anyways, it's just another way for the corrupt governing bodies to pick and choose who they want to be successful and who they want to hang out to dry,

I want to see some dude with massive legs riding up a steep mountain at 100mph,

That'd be amazing, to see what,unhindered, the human body is actually capable of becoming,

You don't race do you?

In short, the passport is not far short of worthless.

Sorry, but that's rubbish. It might not be perfect, but it has been, and continues to be, extremely beneficial in curtailing doping in cycling.

That'd be amazing, to see what,unhindered, the human body is actually capable of becoming,

The most beautiful girls don't have silicone tits.

I really don't understand any of the science behind this anymore. I declare Horner innocent.

*desired effect achieved possibly

The acronyms are a pain but it's almost simple; your bone marrow constantly produces baby blood cells red called reticulocytes but it varies in reaction to the presence of fully grown red cells aka haemoglobin.

Riding a Grand Tour destroys red cells, murders them, and naturally your body starts to produce beaucoup reticulocytes to replace them. Unless your bone marrow detects a bunch of haemoglobin suddenly arriving via a transfusion.

So an increasing volume of haemoglobin in a period of extreme exercise stress at the same time as lowered reticulocytes makes no sense at all.

Well, it makes sense under certain circumstances

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1320651.ece

That's taken longer than expected. I think andyp called that about 2 years ago. He's buying the cakes.

Great... At least now with Cookson on top things are gonna change... XD

"Testing puts Sky Endura cyclist on spot"

Not such obvious click-bait once you fix it.

Funny, but my little bro said just yesterday that JTL had disappeared without trace since signing for Sky, which, if anything, would seem to be further evidence that Sky are riding clean.

David Walsh will be loving this.

So we've seen very little of him this year because a) he was doped to the gills to get a place at Sky last year b) they knew this was coming?

Pretty sloppy by the pious anti-doping set-up either way.

Not such obvious click-bait once you fix it.

Funny, but my little bro said just yesterday that JTL had disappeared without trace since signing for Sky, which, if anything, would seem to be further evidence that Sky are riding clean.

This^

As a fellow Plymovian. I was excited by his win, and signing for Sky. Then.....

Endura weren't in the bio passport in 2012 so what testing caught him out?

Sep 2012 he was riding WC in BC colours so ummm that's awkward.

And who could have possibly leaked the existence of the letter to Team Sky embedded journalist David Walsh?

So it was his bio passport data collected whilst riding for Sky that flagged his 2012 values as suspect.

Although Endura were not part of the Biological Passport system at the time, owing to their continental status, Tiernan-Locke was monitored following his victory at the Tour of Britain. The baseline values ascertained after a season of passport measurements during 2013 are what testers are now claiming render his limited 2012 data as suspect.