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• #3402
Hi I have just picked up a steel framed racer and am trying to find out a bit more about it. It has frame lugs that look like this
I will upload a pic of the complete bike as soon as I can.
Does anyone recognise them?
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• #3403
Hi I have just picked up a steel framed racer and am trying to find out a bit more about it. It has frame lugs that look like this
I will upload a pic of the complete bike as soon as I can.
Does anyone recognise them?
Thanks in advanceThat frame is a raleigh Lenton.
(Probably a 1960's model).
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• #3404
Ideal thank you.
Here is a photo of the complete bike
Would it make a good base for my first fixie build or should I look for something else?
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• #3405
Fine around town, get something else if you have tight trousers or want to go quickly.
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• #3406
Tight trousers ?
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• #3407
Any idea what this frame is?
Thanks
So after contacting the seller twice to ask if it was definitely English threaded and being told both times that it was, the frame gets delivered and seems to be french threaded. (well i am guessing as neither an English or Italian bb will fit) the adjustable cup of the English threaded bb went in fine but the fixed side would not take, the adjustable cup will thread on to the drive side but turning right. i have ordered a french bb but it is a guess really. I think the french bb has confirmed it as a Gitane.
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• #3408
Have you ever hear about Bassan?
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• #3409
yeah, just google bassan 'bici' or 'cicli'.. it's a small shop
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• #3410
So after contacting the seller twice to ask if it was definitely English threaded and being told both times that it was, the frame gets delivered and seems to be french threaded. (well i am guessing as neither an English or Italian bb will fit) the adjustable cup of the English threaded bb went in fine but the fixed side would not take, the adjustable cup will thread on to the drive side but turning right. i have ordered a french bb but it is a guess really. I think the french bb has confirmed it as a Gitane.
That doesn't sound like a French bb to me. You wouldn't be able to get anything English in a French threaded shell. Sounds like you're saying it's double right threaded English. Never heard of that - usual answer is old Raleighs when one comes up against weird stuff, but that frame doesn't resemble a Raleigh at all.
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• #3411
^ I think the seller might be right and it is a BSA thread...
I was sold a set of bb cups by a rather shoddy LBS and the packet contained 2x NDS cups.
These both fitted in the English BB but turning CW in both cases...
I was in a bit of a hurry at the time (a couple of days before L'Eroica) so I loctited the bb in place and put a lock-ring on both cups!
I subsequently sold the frame to Andrew of this parish - he was slightly flummoxed by the double CW bb, and we were both mildly concerned that I may have threaded the shell, he later found that a bog standard shimano sealed BB went in quite happily.....my theory (FWIW) is that there's some kind of Zen symmetry that goes on when you turn a RH threaded cup into a LH threaded hole, it goes in CW....
Even though I'm actually a Chartered Mechanical engineer, to my shame I don't have any geometric theories to back it up - it's merely anecdotal evidenceI therefore urge you to persevere with a steady hand on your bsa cups...
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• #3412
That doesn't sound like a French bb to me. You wouldn't be able to get anything English in a French threaded shell. Sounds like you're saying it's double right threaded English. Never heard of that - usual answer is old Raleighs when one comes up against weird stuff, but that frame doesn't resemble a Raleigh at all.
^ I think the seller might be right and it is a BSA thread...
I was sold a set of bb cups by a rather shoddy LBS and the packet contained 2x NDS cups.
These both fitted in the English BB but turning CW in both cases...
I was in a bit of a hurry at the time (a couple of days before L'Eroica) so I loctited the bb in place and put a lock-ring on both cups!
I subsequently sold the frame to Andrew of this parish - he was slightly flummoxed by the double CW bb, and we were both mildly concerned that I may have threaded the shell, he later found that a bog standard shimano sealed BB went in quite happily.....my theory (FWIW) is that there's some kind of Zen symmetry that goes on when you turn a RH threaded cup into a LH threaded hole, it goes in CW....
Even though I'm actually a Chartered Mechanical engineer, to my shame I don't have any geometric theories to back it up - it's merely anecdotal evidenceI therefore urge you to persevere with a steady hand on your bsa cups...
Thanks for the replies, i have been trying to get a standard sealed bb to fit with no joy. My head is melted, but i was looking and on-one do an external bb track crankset. Could i get this and just use a non drive side cup on both sides? failing that a treadless bb, but i dont know what these are like long term.
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• #3413
it sounds french to me....
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• #3414
so i took two non drive side external bb cups and they went straight in, i am thinking of getting one of these:
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/CSOOTC/on_one_external_bearing_track_crankset
And just running two non drive side cups. I think the crank holding itself together should stop the drive side cup from unscrewing.
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• #3415
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3697/8ahp.jpg
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• #3416
And just running two non drive side cups. I think the crank holding itself together should stop the drive side cup from unscrewing.
No worse than Italian threads.
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• #3417
No worse than Italian threads.
yes, that is the plan.
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• #3418
anyone recognizes or knows of these hubs
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11954452/Nueva%20carpeta/ruedas-para-tubo_MLA-F-4532035788_062013.jpgis very similar to this campy but different
any information will be appreciated
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• #3420
They're made U.T.F.S. Industries.
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• #3421
Does anyone know anything about my bike. The frame only has a number on the bottom of bottom bracket but cannot quite make it out.
It has campagnolo crankset, pedals, and bottom bracket.
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• #3422
It may not have started life with those track ends.
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• #3423
Just acquired.
French threading, seat tube is 28.0 od, 25.4 id. (Fork is from 80's Peugeot.)
Dropouts look like Vitus but have no markings. There are two circular bosses on the inside of the right one - could be for some sort of chain hanger? It also seems eyelets have been ground off. The stay tangs do not have the double-bend.
Chainstays are oval not indented, has full set of braze-ons, seatstay tops like Mercier but I have not seen one with head lugs like these.
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• #3424
It may not have started life with those track ends.
What makes you say that?
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• #3425
The brake drillings, fork blades, bottle bosses, look of the track ends. It's hard to tell from those pics, but the geo looks more relaxed than traditional track geo. It's possible of course that it was built as a road fixed frame, but then I'd expect to see mudguard eyes - people used that kind of frame for winter training.
Having said all that, it looks like a nicely built steel frame under the powdercoat - that seat cluster is nicely put together.
^ Other than it's looks lovely, I'm not too sure. Possibly the lugs could be the biggest giveaway? Have you contacted the Vlaamse Wielerschool?
After contacting Simoncini with them being exceptionally helpful, turns out it's not one of theirs.
Thought I'd try one more go at solving the mystery before getting this blasted for paint, anyone?
More info here: http://www.lfgss.com/thread108492.html & http://www.pedalroom.com/bike/mystery-lo-pro-13088