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  • I'd want to make sure everything is above board.

    It's bureaucracy, it's invasive, it's a burden on anyone who might want to organise an event.

    Think of the children? Fuck the children*.

    This is a cycle club for adults, enabling adults to have a laugh, to expand the number of adults who try out and use cycle facilities, participate in sport, etc... it's not overly organised, it's not going to be some sprawling administrative body... it's just an umbrella under which a bunch of adults, who talk shit on the internet, can come together and appear fairly organised and official, and kick open a whole load of doors so that we get access to things that a bunch of adults, who talk shit on the internet, might not get access to.

    This forum has always been adult only, and there are literally 2 or 3 people who are likely to be under 18, above 16, on the forum, and interested in joining this club.

    For the sake of those 2 or 3, I'm not going to suddenly muddy the water, and require everyone who wants to organise an event to divulge their past to me or anyone else. I'm not going to require them to go through invasive jumps, just so that they can go "Hey, wouldn't it be a blast if we did event x". They should be able to do that without the burden of CRB and "think of the children".

    There's a line to be drawn, and when we suddenly require welfare officers, "think of the children", CRB checks, record management, ratios of CRB checked people at events... then it's way outside the remit of the club.

    Of course this sucks majorly, of course I'd prefer to say all are welcome. But it's the world we live in and this forum has never been "think of the children" and the club won't be either. Our conversations are adult, our socialising is adult (pubs!), we are adults. Let's just get on with having a blast as adults.

    To anyone below 18, please join a club that can safeguard and protect you. If you still want to join us when you're 18, you are very welcome to do so. And regarding events, the vast majority of forum events are not club organised events, they are just public gatherings... nothing is stopping you from doing them.

    As for club events, the only open question is: What happens if someone from VCL who is 17 turns up to Herne Hill and wants to ride with us? We've never turned anyone away, but would we suddenly have all of the burden above? If the answer is yes then it may well be that we can't let under 18s participate in those events. The burden on the club is too great, we are disorganised and post-formation will be decentralised... we can't expect anyone who organises or volunteers at an event to go through CRB for 1 or 2 people, and we won't.

    • Not literally, there are laws against that.
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