Remember kids... always wear a helmet. (The almighty bikeradar helmet thread)

I reckon you just take things personally too easily, maybe you should modify your perception of words?

No, I wouldn't say that because the two situations are not comparable.

This is one of the crimes of cycle helmet promotion.... ** The perception of helmet effectiveness is so far from the reality that masses of time and resources are wasted on pursuing the least effective intervention for reducing death and injury.**

This, +10000

If you are offended by a perfectly decent post by charlie about helmets then you are a tool (you may take this as offensive), his wording was fine, any personal offence read into is your own and not his. Your insinuation that he should modify his language to avoid offending you is actually personally offensive to me, maybe you should modify your language to avoid personally offending me.

Come on guys, there's only one way of settling this...

Epic Chicken Fight | FAMILY GUY | FOX BROADCASTING - YouTube

Should I wear a helmet to fight a giant chicken?

Only if you're choking it

I thought the helmet automatically lead to choking / snagging

"Should I wear a helmet to fight a giant chicken?"

It's a personal choice... Check out the "Remember kids... always wear a helmet." thread. Many of the principles concerning cycle helmets and traffic safety also apply to fighting giant chickens.

Daddy home is he?

(This is a puerile joke, please take it tongue in cheek).

If a driver hits you and you have a head injury then I can see grounds for some mitigation (1) to the extent you would have been better off wearing a helmet (ie not mitigation if you were hit at a speed where the helmet would have done no good, or if you were killed due to chest injuries) and (2) because you as a cyclist have failed to take the non-mandatory advice in the highway code. Helmets may not be mandatory but you are ignoring the advice of the state by not wearing one.

In the case in question the driver was undeniably at fault and had been found guilty, not only that but he had previously killed a cyclist with his car.

If you honestly believe that there is ANY mitigation for gross negligence then you sir are an ignorant, foetid, infected blue waffle of a cunt. Seriously, fuck you. There is no mitigation for taking someone else's life through your own ignorance or sense of self importance because you happen to be sitting in a mobile metal box.

I started reading this thread again because I thought it was mildly amusing to see you bring out the same tired clichés of arguments but in a slightly more preachy way and get smacked down time and again. Honestly you are like some kind of retarded puppy that does not realise it is running in circles and cannot understand why it never gets anywhere.

This post is meant to offend you.

I do not like you.

You are a cunt.

Don't bother replying you are on my ignore list.

Are you promoting the wearing of cycle helmets? If so then you are probably involved in cycle helmet promotion. If you are wearing a cycle helmet then you are probably just wearing a cycle helmet, unless you are also promoting the fact that you and others should wear one at the same time, again that would bring you under the banner of cycle helmet promotion. I like wearing jeans, I don't feel I am involved in jeans promotion whilst wearing them (please ignore how good I look in them and how this might promote jean use to others who see me passing by).

Also, chicken didn't need choking, the wife missed me whilst I was away. I didn't wear a helmet.

I can't get it to sit right over the leather mask and ball gag.

Let me start that I don't think earphones should be banned otherwise Ed Scoble must be banned, too. But I must ask: I've found myself riding and have for whatever reason had to call/shout to the person riding in my vicinity rockin Dr Dre Beats like a moody footballer in their own world (maybe because I wanted to pass them or they were about to swerve into my path or something) but they couldn't hear a word I said. How do you justify this as sensible?

I don't mind headphones but I'm yet to see any of the wearers ever substitute their loss of sense by looking around them even more. Kinda grates me.

You appear to have missed the main crux of what i am saying.

It's not the wearing of headphones that makes these idiots inattentive cyclists. It's just the fact they are generally idiots, and yet people seem to focus on the headphones.

I'm sure if they weren't wearing headphones they'd still be shit.

Get 'em while you can! Only £9.99 from Lidl! Why pay more when it conforms to CE EN 1078, so offers as much protection as nearly every other lid you can buy? It's even got a light!

Ironic, that the greatest contribution this will make to your safety is not the protection it affords after an incident, but the light alerting other road users to your presence, which may *prevent *one.

I think I'd go the extra fiver to get one with ASTM & CPSC certification too, you can never have too many certificates

stickers, it's stickers, not certificates

stickers, it's stickers, not certificates

I bet you don't get stickers, even though Bell hold certificates.

Get 'em while you can! Only £9.99 from Lidl! Why pay more when it conforms to CE EN 1078, so offers as much protection as nearly every other lid you can buy? It's even got a light!

Ironic, that the greatest contribution this will make to your safety is not the protection it affords after an incident, but the light alerting other road users to your presence, which may *prevent *one.

Every liddle helps

Specialized helmet amnesty.

My LBS don't want old helmets so (if they're typical) ignore the amnesty angle. It's Specialized top helmets (in 2013 colours) sold at massive discounts.

I'm liking my new S3 (for £60).

Let me start that I don't think earphones should be banned otherwise Ed Scoble must be banned, too.

You know, I hope, that this logic is rubbish?

Being (largely) unable to hear and being distracted by other sounds unrelated to the traffic situation at hand are completely different things.

D/deaf people will generally have made adjustments and compensatory strategies, whereas earphone-wearers may not.

And, as ever: Don't discriminate against disabled people. (I know that wasn't your intention.)

[URL="http://www.specialized.co.uk/gb/gb/news/latest-news/16123"]Specialized helmet amnesty.

Too late:

Valid for purchases between June 1st and June 30th 2013

I don't think he owes it to you, myself or all the other people that are undoubtedly enthralled by all this. You could probably take this less personally though.

Safe.