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  • There are a great many people, who've been cycling a lot longer than you or I have, who will never be convinced that they should have to share the road with buses, lorries, or any other motor vehicle - they are asking for segregation.

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    Who are these long experienced cyclists who won't ride with motor vehicles? (Have they tried cycle training :)

    I believe that the current Go Dutch/'separate all the things' fervor was born (-again: we had been through this before and LCC, CTC had concluded to be pragmatic and asses what works in each situation) out of the Understanding Walking and Cycling research project (pdf here)

    This research was done in places with low levels of cycling asking why people don't cycle, most people asked were drivers. Of course the answer they got was "because its too dangerous and we'd do it if we could away from the cars". The results of this and their call for separate Dutch style network was picked up by some key loud bloggers some of whom seem blind to successful interventions in places like hackney where there is almost no segregation yet riding in that borough feels easier, more comfortable than most other place in London because of a raft of measures and excellent cooperation between the council and the local cycling group. That kind of working together was happening to a degree at TfL level and some good stuff has been done across London. That should continue...

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