Mash / Cinelli Vigorelli

Sizists.

54cm st with 53cm tt? IN! T rex heaven.

because everybody on here notices soooo much flex at the bottom of the headtube rofl

I can literally see my head tube moving around. That may be an issue with my wobbly eyes though.

58 c-c maybe?

it says c-t right there

Also, not everyone uses the same stem length/bar width, that can make the 58 a-ok or unrideable for people with the same height.

ps. I love it how everybody is like 'omg, tapered headtube, I need this, totally considering buying' etc etc
because everybody on here notices soooo much flex at the bottom of the headtube rofl

Some of the advances in stiffness (with the materials used or with different approaches to achieve common 'technologies' like tapered head tubes or double crown forks in DH), mostly boil down to the rider feeling more confident in what they are riding and that can make a difference when they are riding. If, in a blinded test, most of us can tell the differences is another matter, but the mental aspect does play a part in it.

Something like 6 or 7 years ago I remember reading a horror story with a carbon bar snapping and the rider getting quite disfigured from going down (he was wearing a helmet, but not a full face helmet as it was 'only' his XC bike). Reading that, made me quite afraid of carbon in general even though I know that today it doesn't really make sense with companies like Enve and all the advances made in carbon used specifically in bicycle applications. Something made of aluminium will fatigue eventually and snap, I'm also aware of that. But, that mental side of things makes me uneasy around carbon.

The tapered head tube, for me, ends up being that. If I can have one without it and one with it, I'll go to the one with it. I don't have reason to believe that the one without it will fail catastrophically or that the one with it won't fail at all. But it does give me a bit more peace of mind, without being a deal maker or breaker.

I used to know a guy into DH who was convinced Carbon was alien technology. CSB ect, but he has hilarious about it

This video of the niner fork is pretty awesome.

Niner Bikes Fork Hammering - YouTube

Also, not everyone uses the same stem length/bar width, that can make the 58 a-ok or unrideable for people with the same height.

Some of the advances in stiffness (with the materials used or with different approaches to achieve common 'technologies' like tapered head tubes or double crown forks in DH), mostly boil down to the rider feeling more confident in what they are riding and that can make a difference when they are riding. If, in a blinded test, most of us can tell the differences is another matter, but the mental aspect does play a part in it.

Something like 6 or 7 years ago I remember reading a horror story with a carbon bar snapping and the rider getting quite disfigured from going down (he was wearing a helmet, but not a full face helmet as it was 'only' his XC bike). Reading that, made me quite afraid of carbon in general even though I know that today it doesn't really make sense with companies like Enve and all the advances made in carbon used specifically in bicycle applications. Something made of aluminium will fatigue eventually and snap, I'm also aware of that. But, that mental side of things makes me uneasy around carbon.

The tapered head tube, for me, ends up being that. If I can have one without it and one with it, I'll go to the one with it. I don't have reason to believe that the one without it will fail catastrophically or that the one with it won't fail at all. But it does give me a bit more peace of mind, without being a deal maker or breaker.

tapered headtube is big in dh, and no wonders why it has been popular.

but we are talking about a street frame, with a 'front brake friendly' interface, of sizing that is being aimed clearly at kids - really can't see anything 1 1/8 not being strong enough.

tapered headtube is big in dh, and no wonders why it has been popular.

but we are talking about a street frame, with a 'front brake friendly' interface, of sizing that is being aimed clearly at kids - really can't see anything 1 1/8 not being strong enough.

It's a USP. Nobody except dosnoventa has bothered with tapered head tubes on a track frame, even though they've been wide spread on road bikes for a while now. This puts them at a significant advantage in the market (especially considering their seemingly better reputation then dosnoventa) as people are always going to want the latest technology whether or not it will make any measurable difference for them in use, and this makes them one of only two options on the market that offer this. Also it seems like they're making an effort to turn it in to a more serious track frame with this model, changing geometry to fit UCI regs, ditching the forward sloping top tube and adding a tapered head tube.

I'd quite like one, but not with that paint job.

tapered headtube is big in MTB in general, DH uses alot of 1.5, and no wonders why it has been popular.

Fixed.

Would mielec do tapered headtubes?

Mielec doesnt do their own headtubes. If their headtube supplier in germany can provide them with 1 1/2 then they can.

New 2014 Vigo teaser on Cinelli's instagram.

Looks like the one of the 2013 road frames.

I dig this paint job over the new Mash paint

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http://instagram.com/p/eSE8PyKD6w/

oef, promising!

ooo full frame shot here
http://www.iphoneogram.com/p/544623517158988540_218991397/
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http://www.iphoneogram.com/p/543436204689185349_218991397/
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http://www.iphoneogram.com/p/542852581799876806_218991397/

:(

graphic design, yo

i really like it, apart of vigorelli bit on top tube

Quite a bad version of this imo..
http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-media/5360077526/cinelli-strato-wired-comp-2013.jpg?w=2000&h=2000&a=7

Mannnn I wish mine looked like that.

Looking good! Always liked that offset cmyk look.

Hopefully everyone will want the 2013 model when this comes out for the old ITA paint job...then I can sell my 2013 and get this new one

not really a fan of that new vig at all. Looks like it would be pretty hard to build up well. They should just release this imo

That'd do me.