Football

should that be most winningest? I get confused with these americanizations.

David Moyes - medaled at last.

Boro, Portsmouth, Blackburn, Leicester, Swansea all have won trophies.

As have Birmingham and Wigan

So except Boro, Portsmouth, Blackburn, Leicester, Swansea, Birmingham and Wigan are there any other teams, deemed not as good as Everton, that have won trophies since the mighty Everton last won anything?

With a narrow criteria of English team winning Prem, FA cup, League cup, a European cup and Charity Shield since 2002 I think we have them all.

Even winning the Championship Play-Off trophy is better than winning some tin-pot shield in the traditional season curtain raiser.

Perhaps Everton don't take the League Cup seriously even though it's the easiest route into Europe.

but liverpool won stuff in that time and we're not very good either

And how much money have Liverpool spunked in that time to still only finish behind us 2 seasons on the trot?

Moyes spent £8m net

maybe he should have spent more then

like wenger

19 years between them and no trophies

He didn't call him a talent, he said he's got talent. 'A talent' suggests a young player with potential. Lambert is 31.

Also, you can be a talented journeyman. It suggests that you have underachieved, which if you only got going in your late 20's, like Lambert, is probably true.

All you smug pellets twining about Moyes not winning anything in 11 years and he's already done it with Man Utd are just making yourselves look a bit simple

It's like saying if Lewis Hamilton was driving a Skoda Flavia he would never win fuck all

#nicolascageduhhhhhhhhhface

You look a bit simple if you think in any way that the Charity Shield constitutes winning something.

It's a chuffing friendly match and bears not the slightest resemblance to an actual trophy.

The facts stand. Gollum won fuck all with the tramps except the MLS All Star Trophy.

You really are a bulb at times, no sorry, all of the time.

Bedwettingshirtlessbitters

You always sound like you pick an opinion first then twist the argument to suit it. Poorly.

Talent is in context. Being a journeyman gives no clue to a person's ability or potential. If Rooney was pottering around the midfield for Everton, scoring 5 goals a season he'd be a journeyman. A very talented (in the context of the Premiership) Journeyman never the less. He would have under achieved. A journeyman can both underachieve and overachieve. That depends on whether they are talented in the context of the level they play at.

Also, you can be a talented journeyman. It suggests that you have underachieved, which if you only got going in your late 20's, like Lambert, is probably true.

This. Ta.

Maybe I could have tediously explained every word I used, but then I'd have ended up with a dull five paragraph post which no-one would read, and everyone would think I was a boring cunt.

You look a bit simple if you think in any way that the Charity Shield constitutes winning something.

It's a chuffing friendly match and bears not the slightest resemblance to an actual trophy.

The facts stand. Gollum won fuck all with the tramps except the MLS All Star Trophy.

You really are a bulb at times, no sorry, all of the time.

Errrrr....prickwank, it wasn't me who gave the Charity Shield any kind of merit, it was your plastic comrades harping on about Moyes finally winning something

Let me know when you have something interesting to say

ooooooh, not so happy when we talk about your team are you

He's a bit cranky this morning, apparently his Liverpool onesie has shrunk in the wash.

Liverpoolobsessivesyouknowwhoyouare

Nice article with pics n graphs etc about FFP

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23669759

Tl;DR

Apparently WHU are changing their name to Liverpool 'B'.

This has had me chuckling

Shut the fuck up Luis
http://seeingredonline.com/shut-up-luis/

That's very good

Apparently WHU are changing their name to Liverpool 'B'.

As dull as this is, if it makes you feel better about the combined loss on the two players of about £34m, then fill your boots.