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@O'Shane
Yeah, if you just shrug you shouldn't need to lower the bars any more.
I've managed to get a comfortable position by lifting my bars an inch. I do have a problem in that I end up with numb genitals after the end of just 10mi. Gonna try tilting the saddle forward a little to see if it helps at all for tonight. If the wind stays as the forecast says it will then I should be on for a decent time. Ok, somewhere in the 23min.