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@spenceey
Yes I stretch, even after my small 4 miles to work then the same again when I get home.
I've had a bike fit, which actually sorted my knee problems. I then decided to try out speed play and the pain came back. Saw another fitter to help and the pain went for a bit. Then saw a physio as I wanted shot of the pain, lowered the cycling at the same time pain subsided but was still there.
Since I've moved again I'm now cycling to and from work every day and my knee (just the one) is in a lot of pain. I'm fed up well and truly at my age I shouldn't be worried about my knees ffs.
Also I can't keep throwing money at something hoping it'll help. I'm considering seeing another fitter to help but really don't k ow what to do.