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@JWestland
50 cm for me then but that disregards geometry does the article above mean 50 square frames?
My Ciocc is 49.5x51 CTC and feels fine but 1 cm longer may be OK.
Track bike that would be the max TT I'd say due to deep drops...I'd go 1 cm shorter.
I need a good guess as somebody will have a look for me at a jumble none of the darn things here in Northern Ireland...;(