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I know 953 is harder to build, I was trying to find out why the same frame in Zona is still £850 whereas the 14R is £700ish in 853 (even if it's not full 853 that's still better than full Zona). The 953 frame would be £1500. Anyway I'll stop hijacking this thread now, I've got lots of options to consider. Thanks again for all the responses folks, much obliged.