• At least Ringo knows he was lucky and McCartney had the 1.8 because he makes Mick Jagger look like king of the spunkers.

    I'll give you the Senna reference (Serious Piles even posted a print-out of Senna times in a 190 Cosworth several hundred pages back) but they were still unobtainable to the average man in the street.

    Buy an E30 and be done with it.

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