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@miro_o
I have an Ortlieb and an Archies Grobag for fakenginering around with.
I use the Ortlieb every day and it's falling apart and not big enough... but... I use it every day.
The messenger bag is massively expandable and totally comfortable but huge, and more huge than I want to ride with most of the time. I think I'm going to get panniers for loads bigger/heavier than the Ortlieb can handle.
Offers for the Grobag welcome. :)