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  • Nice nice. Yeah i did originally take all of the click and ring out of the kick to leave just the "doof" but my love of ragged junk-yard mess made me revert to the un-eq'd signal.

    I think I am going to make a few replacements though and re-mix. Thanks for the offer man. I'll definitley take you up on the offer of a mix at some point. There's plenty more tunes coming.

  • Is it you who is singing?

    Vocalist (just like me) does not have a naturally strong voice, actually very weak. This does not mean it cannot be musical and awesome though. Developing a singing "accent" that draws out the most of the available vocal tone helps even a weak singer have more power/projection, consistency and musically pleasing sound.

    At the beginning the singer is weak and shaky, gets better as the song goes on when they start emphasising through accent. But needs to go a step further, find something that gets the best out of the instrument (voice) and go all out right from the beginning.

  • Is it you who is singing?

    Vocalist (just like me) does not have a naturally strong voice, actually very weak.

    Yep. and err thanks. I think?

  • I just listened to it solo'd. I am doing a sort of mock hysterical wobbly vibrato thing that I would argue is the effect I was going for, although I concede it could come across as "nerve wobbles" if you haven't heard me sing before. It's something specific to this version of this song and is quite deliberate.

    honest!

  • Yeah I don't get any lack of confidence from the vocals at all, in this song or any of your others.

  • ^...and nor do I.

    Back to stuff! Things you buy! 'Cos you're dead inside and writing no songs!

    Beautifully built 1966 germanium Vox Tone Bender clone with bias knob and tone switch. I love fuzz but struggle with it. Ain't no easy ride. This thing is fucking evil.

    Award yourself an imaginary cupcake for vinyl ID.

  • I just listened to it solo'd. I am doing a sort of mock hysterical wobbly vibrato thing that I would argue is the effect I was going for, although I concede it could come across as "nerve wobbles" if you haven't heard me sing before. It's something specific to this version of this song and is quite deliberate.

    honest!

    If you want it to sound like that, go step further. More into tenor territory with falsetto even if your voice does not want to go there. What you will get will be more soft, wispy and fragile, think Elliott Smith.

    Although, I do not think that would suit the song myself, I reckon you should do what you can to make your voice 'belt, and ring out notes solid and sustained. Currently sounds too much like talking.

    For either, maintaining strong musical note emphasis will be difficult. This is where the accent thing comes in.

  • ^okay man. whatever you say!

    ^^love fuzz man. my best vinyl guess is... hawkwind?

  • fuck me i was right!

  • Nice call!

  • DFP does it again! #footinmouth #clueless

    Really wanna try that fuzz out, Rick... Sounds right up my street...

  • I just picked up one of these fuzzes - not what you'd call subtle, but so so money.

    Tyrant fuzz riffs - YouTube

    Sludge heaven.

  • Would actually really like to pick up a baritone guitar as well, something I can tune to B/C without buggering up the tunings. Anyone got anything suitable?

  • I fucking love fuzz... Best. Sound. Ever.

  • Dooks, re your vocals. Nothing at all wrong with the performance IMO. Just needs the right compression and EQ settings to get it sitting in the right place, at the moment there are too many conflicting frequencies from the rest of the mix and the compression isn't hard enough to make it stand out like a lead vocal should.

    Logic Pro has some great presets, start with them and have a play. It's important that you learn to understand how to hear what the various aspects of compression settings do to a sound rather than relying on a preset though.

  • but i'm afear'd!

    Thanks man, opinions all appreciated. This week is hand on learn how to mix in LP9 mode.

  • Been working with logic for 14 years (eek! ) still don't know 'everything' it's capable of doing. Initial advice is to treat it like an analogue desk when setting up busses and subgroups. Important when it comes to your comps and verbs.
    My experiences are almost entirely in mixing 'real' instruments though, there's a whole side of software instruments I'm only just getting to grips with.
    These days I only do one or two small projects a year if that.
    Happy to answer Qs if I can and/or even run up mix for you

  • Jude my gf is playing her Gibson Les Paul (Alpine White) at the Gillespie park Summer festival on Sunday 23rd. A blues set.
    https://www.ilovemarkets.co.uk/london/events/midsummer-celebration

  • Been working with logic for 14 years (eek! ) still don't know 'everything' it's capable of doing. Initial advice is to treat it like an analogue desk when setting up busses and subgroups. Important when it comes to your comps and verbs.
    My experiences are almost entirely in mixing 'real' instruments though, there's a whole side of software instruments I'm only just getting to grips with.
    These days I only do one or two small projects a year if that.
    Happy to answer Qs if I can and/or even run up mix for you

    thanks for all the offers of help advice. i'm getting stuck in this afternoon. *puts on coffee

  • Good luck.

    Remember 1hr of 'logic time' is equivalent to 4hrs in the real world.

    And subscribe to S.O.S. if you haven't already, some useful tutorials in their archives

  • Finally got Logic's Amp Sim to sound halfway to where I want it to be. Lovely fuzzy stonery goodness.

    https://soundcloud.com/benedict_edwards/logic-amp-sim

  • Oooh nice.

    Hey am I being dim (aside: I know I am being dim but please bear with me) but where is the cornucopia of endless boutique effects I was promised in LP9? So far a cursory poke round has revealed a couple of tweakable reverbs and compresors and a few basic effects with the "garageband" suffix. At first glance the choice feels more limited than GB? Do I need to enter the world of plugins already?

    I'm looking for compressors, reverbs, echos and things a supposed to guitar specific sims and effects. I should take this to the "producers" thread really shouldn't I? I prefer it in here though.

  • In other guitar news, I re-strung my wife's 3/4 size student guitar for the first time in it's life. It's a crappy ply-topped Encore covered in flowers and stars painted in a a then-teenaged girl's nail varnish. I dig it and am seriously considering getting a transducer fitted to I can play it live.

  • Oooh nice.

    Hey am I being dim (aside: I know I am being dim but please bear with me) but where is the cornucopia of endless boutique effects I was promised in LP9? So far a cursory poke round has revealed a couple of tweakable reverbs and compresors and a few basic effects with the "garageband" suffix. At first glance the choice feels more limited than GB? Do I need to enter the world of plugins already?

    I'm looking for compressors, reverbs, echos and things a supposed to guitar specific sims and effects. I should take this to the "producers" thread really shouldn't I? I prefer it in here though.

    There should be a tonne - where're you looking? Logic has a load of guitar specific stuff (in the Distortion element) but there are at least five different reverbs, a tonne of compressors, some great EQs, as well as all the weird modulation stuff.

    I do actually really like the Logic amp sim stuff, the stompbox effects can sound great when you split the signal out too.

  • Cheers, I wonder if it's limited because I've opened a GB project in LP9? I'll start something new from scratch this week.

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