Bike Shed

So ever since seeing one of the greatest projects on these forums - http://www.lfgss.com/thread92523.html , I've been urging myself to build a bike shed however whilst reading it I knew I was going to be moving house soon so put it off.

A few hours ago I moved house and in the garden we have this shed:

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Problems with it though:

-The roof is falling down
-It's a listed building -_-
-It's not very secure
-No electricity/lighting
-Need a space for all the garden tools (i.e a wooden shed will need to be built)
-I have absolutely no DIY experience

You can build a basic wooden shed from a kit with a hammer and a screwdriver- it's useful to have a friend to help, but not essential.

Get that up, move the tools in, then take your time with the "proper" shed.

Subbed. Absolutely enjoyed BareNecessities' shed project, hope this will turn out just as good. (If not better)

listed building? this?!

if its within the 'curtilage of a listed building' its listed, so thats most likely why its a designated heritage asset. Banana skid, not sure if you know about listed buildings, but if you replace things like roofs / doors they need to be exact like for like replacements otherwise you need to apply for planning permission for any works........just a heads up incase the 'law' come down on you

looks like an awesome project, looking forward to seeing the end results, jealous!

Woohoo!

Subscribed :-)

Hopefully this thread should inspire me to get on with some work when I get back home!

Looks, to me*, like removing the roof tiles and stacking them to one side would be fairly straightforward, you could then asses the roof structure and make good/replace, then refit the tiles.

You'd need to be aware of the requirements for ventilation, but I imagine that some insulation under the tiles would both improve the conditions in the shed, and lend some security- as it is at the moment a thief could get in by removing sufficient tiles to climb through.

*I know, right.

Where's wvm and absurdbird when you need them?

Subbed. Absolutely enjoyed BareNecessities' shed project, hope this will turn out just as good. (If not better)

I'd be very happy if mine was half as good.

listed building? this?!

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The shed is part of this^ which is 250 years old so as primitive robot said:

its within the 'curtilage of a listed building' its listed, so thats most likely why its a designated heritage asset. Banana skid, not sure if you know about listed buildings, but if you replace things like roofs / doors they need to be exact like for like replacements otherwise you need to apply for planning permission for any works........just a heads up incase the 'law' come down on you

So after unpacking all of the boxes in my house I'll be speaking to the heritage dudes.

In the meantime I need to create a space for a wooden garden shed for the garden tools. v

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In order to this I'll be using a rotivator so I'll clear up the rest of the garden at the same time which looks like this:

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So I'll try and create a budget for this whole project this weekend and begin some of the weeding and pruning.

^ Potentially a lovely garden there too!

Pile of old bricks = barbecue :-)

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In case anyone's interested here's a very precise idea of what it'll look like.

Upon closer inspection today I've also discovered the shed is incredibly damp so it'll require a damp course and some of the tubular lights that Bare Necessities used.

^ Pumpkins might need a bit more space to grow than that ( depending on variety ). Also, your bike's got some serious problems ;-)

Liking this - it's nice to see it all happening from a different perspective.

Reminds me of...

@bs - If you'd like any actual advice between all my witty remarks just let me know.

@james1234 that's brilliant!

Bare Necessities I'll definitely be asking for advice later on.

Looks like a fun project.
For the damp, check this stuff out.
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/130497379485?var=lv&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=66

Expensive but if you follow the instructions it dries solid inside your walls and solves the damp problem.

Daz

@Dazaa I'll be definitely using some of that - I'll be also be using that in the main house.

So here's a picture of the type of damage that roof has:

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So it seems that wooden beams are actually in quite good condition, but on top of that there is bad layer of felt. Once I get permission I'll take of the tiles and remove the felt. Then assess the situation of the beams and treat them.

Another query is whether to include the tiles? It'll be much easier and more practical for me to just not include them but aesthetically the tiles would be nice.

As you can see in this photo there is skylight:

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It would be very easy for me to just remove it and put a roof over it but then again natural light is nice. So is there any easy way to do this or would it be much easier for me to get somebody in?

Meanwhile, I've made so progress of cleaning up inside:

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It's not actually a bad table - it's secured to the ground and it's actually quite heavy duty.

Hopefully should have reply from the conservation dudes by next weekend.

As its listed will you not have to basically restore it to good condition (not change things)? So tiles and skylight the same?

Although you may have figured this out, or it may be irrelevant, the shed is not *necessarily * considered as within the curtilage since, as I understand it, curtilage itself is essentially not defined until it has been considered by HeritageDudes in relation to an application for LBC.

I think, anyway.

Yeah that's what I guessed too and they're unlikely to decline any application considering the shed is a fifties extension but it's probably best not to start doing anything too drastic yet in case the HeritageDudes get any angry.

Oh, I agree . absolutely anything can be listed so best safe than sorry. The entire of the building itself will be listed too, BTW, irrespective of the specific wording of the listing text.

The house does look jolly nice though .whereabouts in the country are you?

It is great - needs a bit of work doing to as most old houses tend to.

I'm based in Cambridge - Great Shelford more specifically.

Took advantage of the good weather and cleared some space for the shed:

This morning:

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Lunchtime:

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2 O'clock:

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Now I have the tedious job of getting rid of the weeds.

Next I'll level the area and begin digging a hole for the concrete base which the shed will stand on.