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So I have a dilemma on my hands...
Just got my hands on a lovely 1979 Gazelle (Champion Mondial, A frame) which I'm planning on turning into my new commute bike. Unfortunately, for me and the bike, some fool of a previous owner has gone to town with an angle grinder and taken off a fair few braze-ons (top tube brake cable and shifter bosses) which has then caused the tubing underneath to become exposed and start to rust (see pics attached).
Do I repaint the whole thing to stop it falling into disrepair? Do I touch it up with a new lacquer coat? Has anyone else had a similar problem?
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now to attach some bits to it
mavic open pro sup cd arrived today, record hubs, 1a in the corner, san marco concor in white and campy aero seat post
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531 speedstream frame and forks
That´s an optimistic asking price. Saw this speedstream Gazelle that was apparently being used as a throwaway commuter last year behind Rotterdam Central Station. Quite heartbreaking.
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Such a shame that these Speedstream frames are ruined by the new paint jobs. Same as that Columbus Time Trial frame now on Marktplaats.
A lot of money, but I think the owner does the right thing (asking this price or the best offer). It's so damn rare...
Oh no, the best thing would be to keep it and restore to origiginal state (as good as possible).
I think it's worth EUR 500 +
As shame that I don't have it at the moment. Otherwise it would be worth a fight with my wife. Someone in the need of a kidney! -
wow that down tube is nice and skinny isn't it
maybe be he used a vice to hold his bike as he worked on it
The seat tube is anorexic too (see picture).
How rare are these frames anyway? Compared to an AA Super for example? I have an AA Super frame (1986 version) that´s unfortunately too small for me, but the speedstream chained to the rack at the station is the only one of its kind I´ve ever seen in the flesh (steel?).
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from reading about 531 speedstream it seems it's quite a flexy tubeset
i did a google search for speedstream yesterday and there weren't a lot of bikes that came up
there were some nice time trial frames however
i guess a few manufacturers using this tubeset for special projects
i would hazard the speedstream is rarer or maybe the owners just don't sell them, have seen very few speedstreams but have seen quite a few AA-Superswhat size is your AA-Super and are you selling ?
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The speedstream is rarer for sure, just wondered how rare. Another search I did brought up 20 to 25 frames made, which seems extremely limited.
My AA Super frame is 54 cm, unfortunately I need at least 58 cm and preferably 60-62 cm. I should probably try to sell it some day, but the same goes for some other bikes (been a bit too much of an n+1 guy). I´ll probably end up on one of those ´hoarders´ shows.
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20 to 25 pcs of all brands is untrue, but only Gazelle with 531 Speedstream could be possible. In the years I've worked there, only 1 or 2 SS frame sets have been built there. For Erik Breukink and Jos Alberts for the 1984 Olympics in L.A.
Possibly one was a repainted existing frame.
Gazelle used to make 8 - 10 pcs of each new model in the range for the autumn pre sales shows.
Add a few that have been built for customers and the qty mentioned before could be very well possible. -
would you believe it another speedstream on marktplaats
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is someones gazelle a bit too small for them ?
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Hello all, new here!
I found this thread when I searched for Gazelle bikes - I saw one last month on Yahoo Auction (the Japanese equivalent of eBay) which was way too small for me (thanks Japan) and fell in love with how they looked. "Classy" is the best word I can use, I guess.
Now I'm obsessively scouring eBay in the hopes of finding a 58 frame / bike which the seller won't mind posting over here. I had a look at Marktplaats.nl but have no idea where to begin with that.
Anyway, thanks for this resource. I've learned more about the bikes in this thread than anywhere else on the web.
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try maarktplaasts.nl
http://www.marktplaats.nl/you'll find lots, search champion mondial and you'll find all sorts
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try maarktplaasts.nl
http://www.marktplaats.nl/you'll find lots, search champion mondial and you'll find all sorts
Do you think they'd ship to Japan?
I've seen some amazing ones on there but can't figure out the system at all.These ones are beautiful...
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/fietsen-en-brommers/fietsen-oldtimers/m668075820-gazelle-champion-mondial.html?c=8c285449651fa109c354bbabe740c1b&previousPage=lrAny advice would be gratefully received.
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Well, I emailed one of the sellers. Fingers crossed I get a positive response!
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markplaats is a cross between an auction and ebay
sometimes the sellers put a price they are aiming for.
sometimes they just put the item out there to be bid on
there is no real time span for the auctions usually things go through in a few days or when no new bids have been submitted for a certain period of time
my advise is join and auction set a target and keep bidding till you reach your targetmost sellers i have e-mailed have been more than perfectly happy to mail to london and with exception to the cost there isn't really any extra effort putting a bike in a box and posting to tokyo
as long as you meet their demand for postage costs and price of the bike i'm sure they'll be happy to ship -
markplaats is a cross between an auction and ebay
sometimes the sellers put a price they are aiming for.
sometimes they just put the item out there to be bid on
there is no real time span for the auctions usually things go through in a few days or when no new bids have been submitted for a certain period of time
my advise is join and auction set a target and keep bidding till you reach your targetmost sellers i have e-mailed have been more than perfectly happy to mail to london and with exception to the cost there isn't really any extra effort putting a bike in a box and posting to tokyo
as long as you meet their demand for postage costs and price of the bike i'm sure they'll be happy to shipOh right, they list a price they're kind of hoping for, then others throw in their bids until the seller feels one is good enough. I saw that on a few auctions, there were random lowball bids listed. It all makes sense now! Thanks for explaining - really appreciate it.
It's a ballache being so tall in Japan. 10cm shorter and I'd have a world of options.
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The problem is that also for the dutch market 58 cm is the most popular frame size.
- Many frames or bikes offered in that size.
- A lot of people are looking for the same frame size as you so.
You beter be size 52/53/54, then it's easier to find a good deal.
If you have a gourgeous Japanese frame to trade, it would be a piece of cake to find a nice Gazelle.
Gazelle frames can be found here on every street corner, but nice Japanese frames are rare as hens' teeth. - Many frames or bikes offered in that size.
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The problem is that also for the dutch market 58 cm is the most popular frame size.
- Many frames or bikes offered in that size.
- A lot of people are looking for the same frame size as you so.
You beter be size 52/53/54, then it's easier to find a good deal.
If you have a gourgeous Japanese frame to trade, it would be a piece of cake to find a nice Gazelle.
Gazelle frames can be found here on every street corner, but nice Japanese frames are rare as hens' teeth.Ha ha, so I have the same problem as I have in Japan! Here I'm too tall to find any bikes in my size, and there I'm too similar to everyone else.
Actually 60cm frames technically fit me better (I'm 6'00") but I'm hoping for a 56cm top tube, as that is the perfect size for my torso.The bad thing about buying frames in Japan is that the site everyone uses, Yahoo Auctions, is full of sellers who price things with incredible starting prices. Occasionally you'll find something priced normally, but often you'll see things which have been listed over a year at double their value.
Another issue is that of the "mama-chari". Sorry I'm dragging this thread off topic. Anyway, mama-charis are the ubiquitous shopping bicycles of Japan. Their introduction led to the situation where 99.99% of cyclists in Japan use the pavement instead of riding on the road, and road bikes became almost obsolete. Most of the mass-production frame makers in the mid 80s (Bridgestone, Panasonic, Miyata, Nishiki to some extent) exported far, far more than they sold domestically. Things picked up in Japan when aluminium frames became popular, but steel most often went overseas.
The end result is that it's often easier and cheaper to find Japanese frames in the USA than in Japan. Of course there are many exceptions (Bridgestone Radac frames are ten a penny over here) but for the most part, it's fairly tricky.
That said, if you want a new frame, there are some incredible, incredible builders. This one is quite under-the-radar but one of the best. Also, one of the worst websites ever http://496elan.com/
- Many frames or bikes offered in that size.
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^^ wasn't these frames bought on here from frank the tank.
I got my fietselfstedentocht tickets today 6:36am time slot. I have put my Gazelle Jubilee to bed, DA group went to Jeez today. Fingers crossed he will let go to the lovely TVM replica!!