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  • I would honestly abandon this thread totally, if it started heading in the look-at-me, look-at-my-cutting-tools direction.

    Don't worry, I have no intention of going anywhere near that! I have very mixed feelings about a lot of those videos as, although they may not show anything that experienced thieves don't already know, I suspect they may be helping proto-scrotes to get ideas we'd all prefer they didn't.

    There has also been a lot of misinformation in amongst several of those; slagging off Sold Secure when using motorbike-thief tools to defeat Bicycle-Gold rated locks. Doh! Of course big bolt croppers will cut small chains in a trice. If people need motorbike-level security, they shouldn't even consider bicycle-level-only locks! I think Sold Secure don't help themselves there by having different 'Gold' levels, but it's not that complicated at the end of the day and they do provide a useful gauge to help people buy what they need. Even Caravan Gold (the highest rating for chains etc) is not a guarantee of infallibility; these are just supposed to give an indication of what will stop an average thief at each level and within the given time limit.

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