Custom Oak Cycles 650B French Randonneur Project.

I meant a classic randonneuring bike with down tube shifters. I would go for a more standard touring bike. I think the same could be said for something like this.

I've not ridden that All City but I have ridden CX and Audax type bikes and high trail rando' bikes (LTRBs?). I think it's a bit like compairing cheese and cake. They're both amazing but don't always fit your mood, and a world without either would be poorer. Or more hungry. Or something.

Bikes like that All City have better ti and carbon alternatives. I'm not sure anyone's done similar with ranndonneurs.