Locks that work

Thanks for that Hatbeard; it shows that Pragma has not been kept in the loop (pun alert!).

@Pragma, No.....I don't have a problem carrying different keys - I keep them together on a keyring. Doesn't everyone?

Sure, maybe it's because of the number of things we're involved with that we end up with huge bunches of keys if we don't get them keyed-alike. If people aren't bothered then that's fine.

And as for your backing for made-in-Britain, I do applaud your faith in UK manufacture, but in truth, for companies that need to maximise profits, a lot of manufacture made in China does make financial sense, and it can be of the best quality [Apple demonstrates this well].

It can be good quality but a lot of it isn't, or is very variable. That is where I have a particular problem with it. Kryptonite manufacture in China but their top-end locks are very good so fair enough. A lot of the others that are not so serious, many of whom have what I think to be a very disrespectful attitude to their customers, so it can be a minefield to buy with any confidence.

I'm not that bothered about the lock being a five or six pin cylinder affair. I think it probably made down to a price point, and on this thread, the Squire Hammerhead lock is considered a secondary lock, and not a main one.

Your posts are always informative, if not lengthy, and sometimes its hard to reach the end; but since you are an industry insider, I can only thank you for your input.

Apologies for being too wordy ;-) I'll try and keep things brief from now on. Squire's 5-pin cylinder is still a good one and is used in the SS50P5 open shackle padlock that they put through Sold Secure after our request (we needed something to replace the Masterlock M50D, as mentioned elsewhere). They do take notice of requests.

By the way, if you have any sway at all with Squire, can you ask them if they would consider offering again to the public their absolutely supreme Squire Paramount Plus lock? It was pure lunacy to abandon it. It is a lock that could command a premium price, and compete with the very best and strongest locks. Squire's offerings over recent years seem anaemic in comparison.

I can ask. We never had any experience with that one. I know with the Urban Paramount that they ended up actually losing money on it so something had to change.

Re the Hammerhead, if you want one to test I can send you one we've got here FoC if you PM me your address. I might take the liberty of including a few links of our 'Protector' chains so you can see what you think of them, too :-)

Cheers,

Steve.