Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

Clapham Junction crossing bridge is slowing filling with pasty and coffee shops.

Well done busiest station ever let's make less room as long as they buy a pasty after drawing blood, who cares?

My proudest/most shameful moment is when I shouted at a woman on the tube one morning. On the Jubilee line, playing that game where you stand at the end of the seated sections in the front/rear carriage waiting for a seat (it's a long journey and I was knackered). Someone gets up to leave, it's clearly my seat so I step aside to let them out. As I go to sit down a tiny woman tries to BARGE past me to get to it.
I stopped her with my arm and just said "no!" and sat down. As I sat down she had a go at me and all I could say was "I was stood RIGHT there, what's wrong with you?"
At the time I thought I was totally justified, but in retrospect I realise that most of the carriage thought I was fucking mental. It was at this point that I realised I had to to HTFU and commute by bike more. I can't even remember why, but I had been off the bike for a week or so (ill I think) and this was the end result.

TL;DR - cool story, bro. Getting the tube at rush hour made me mental.

I stopped taking the tube on 'rest days' to avoid catching another almost fatal case of train commuter alien zombie AIDS. Fuck that.

#betteroffbybike

I rarely get the tube home from work, and even more rarely do so at peak times. But when I do, I'm genuinely surprised that people aren't injured regularly at Victoria - the sheer push of the crowd, it's a wonder people aren't nudged onto the tracks. And being a tad too polite to shove, I have to wait for train after train after train. I'd just walk out, if I could, but there's no way back once you're down there. Horrible.

Biking/walking for the win.

My rules for urban pedestrians:

1: If the pavement is 2-people wide, don't walk in the middle of it. Leave a gap on one side for people to overtake or to walk past you in the opposite direction.

2: Walk along the pavement, don't walk on some random diagonal which slowly moves you from one side of the pavement to the other. This leads me to think that I can overtake you on one side and then suddenly there's not enough space to get by.

3: Don't suddenly stop to get your phone out/look in a shop/tie your shoelace without checking that no-one behind you is going to walk into you.

4: Don't walk 4 abreast towards me in the expectation that I will step into the gutter/traffic just so that you can carry on your conversation with your friends.

5: If you have the choice, walk on the left. That way, the person who may have to step into the traffic is facing the oncoming traffic and can see whether it is safe to do so.

6: If you are standing waiting for a bus/friend/epiphany/whatever take a second to think about where people seem to want to walk and then stand somewhere else. Particularly if you are a member of a group consider that you (as a group) can block the entire pavement!

7: You may love your wheelybag, to everyone else it is a device specifically designed to trip them over and/or whack them in the shins.

8: Don't stop at the top of an escalator to get your bearings or adjust your grip on your wheelybag or I will walk into/over you to avoid getting trampled by the people behind me.

9: If you don't know where you're going, take a moment before stepping out of the door to find out or step to the side of the pavement to look at your map. Sightseeing's lovely, but 5:30pm on a Tuesday at the busiest intersection in the city is probably not the best time and place to do it.

10: (The Golden Rule) There is always someone who wants to walk faster than you, consider how you might be holding them up.

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I stopped her with my arm and just said "no!" and sat down. As I sat down she had a go at me and all I could say was "I was stood RIGHT there, what's wrong with you?"

Hero :')

Both cyclists and newly licensed drivers require a great deal of experience in order to understand their vehicles and how to not kill themselves and or others, the latter obviously much more highly likely in a car. I strongly agree having a license doesn't make you a safe driver; nor does having little experience and no training make you safe on a bike.
It is a big problem in London; inexperienced cyclists taking to the road and giving others a bad name, and putting their lives at risk. This problem has only been compounded by the Boris bikes disaster which actively encourages complete novices to ride without any knowledge or a helmet!
Police are now out in force penalising experienced cyclists for maneuvers which experienced cyclists know all too well are much safer than what the 'law' requires. All this to fear monger, as a result of deaths resulting from inexperienced and dangerous riding.
London's roads aren't designed for cyclists, yet Boris et al are pouring money into getting as many people out there as possible, regardless of proficiency or knowledge. A big problem I am stuck on as I too desperately want to see combustion engine traffic reduce and cycling increase.
Road attitudes, knowledge and design may take decades to change and settle.
Sigh.

Apologies; this was meant to go into an different thread

What thread was it bound for? So I can ignore it.

Both cyclists and newly licensed drivers require a great deal of experience in order to understand their vehicles and how to not kill themselves and or others, the latter obviously much more highly likely in a car. I strongly agree having a license doesn't make you a safe driver; nor does having little experience and no training make you safe on a bike.
It is a big problem in London; inexperienced cyclists taking to the road and giving others a bad name, and putting their lives at risk. This problem has only been compounded by the Boris bikes disaster which actively encourages complete novices to ride without any knowledge or a helmet!
Police are now out in force penalising experienced cyclists for maneuvers which experienced cyclists know all too well are much safer than what the 'law' requires. All this to fear monger, as a result of deaths resulting from inexperienced and dangerous riding.
London's roads aren't designed for cyclists, yet Boris et al are pouring money into getting as many people out there as possible, regardless of proficiency or knowledge. A big problem I am stuck on as I too desperately want to see combustion engine traffic reduce and cycling increase.
Road attitudes, knowledge and design may take decades to change and settle.
Sigh.

what the fuck does a helmet have to do with it? do shut up

"...what's wrong with you?"

My fav bit. I'm gonna steal this and use it.

Both cyclists and newly licensed drivers require a great deal of experience in order to understand their vehicles and how to not kill themselves and or others, the latter obviously much more highly likely in a car. I strongly agree having a license doesn't make you a safe driver; nor does having little experience and no training make you safe on a bike.
It is a big problem in London; inexperienced cyclists....etc etc etc
Sigh.

What?

I mean rly - what?

You're in a cycling forum suggesting people shouldn't be allowed to cycle?

Or just that they shouldn't be allowed to cycle until they are experienced at cycling? There's a pretty big issue with this principal. Can you spot it?

Let me proffer an alternative view : New people riding bikes is a good thing and all they require only a little patience and consideration.

Stuff.

Before this gets totally ripped to shreds a couple of points that are bothering me.

In what way are Cycle Hire Scheme bikes a disaster? How many deaths and serious injuries have they generated relative to mileage used?

Are London roads really designed for cars? I was under the impression they were designed for people, and possibly horses too.

Knowledge or a helmet? Are those two really interchangeable?

In what way are Cycle Hire Scheme bikes a disaster? How many deaths and serious injuries have they generated relative to mileage used?

Ten million miles have been cycled on the Ken Bikes.

Number of deaths or serious injuries?

Zero.

Are London roads really designed for cars? I was under the impression they were designed for people, and possibly horses too.

Correct.

http://www.roadswerenotbuiltforcars.com/

Clapham Junction crossing bridge is slowing filling with pasty and coffee shops.

Well done busiest station ever let's make less room as long as they buy a pasty after drawing blood, who cares?]

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Bloody chaos if you time it wrong and are trying to walk opposite to the flow. I am going from Platform 5 to 12/14.

For those sprinting for the London Overground on Platforms 1/2 - I don't have any room to move to the side without taking someone out, and I have a huge sea of humanity moving towards me as it is. The trains won't disappear in a puff of smoke. Just get a later one. Its not my fault your incoming train was late or you couldn't get your sorry butt out of bed on time this morning.

But the overground is every 15 minutes and thats what causes most of the dashing, I know I'm one of them.

Well was as I'm back on the iron now.

semiboast post

Mccougal is probably trolling, take one to know one.

10: (The Golden Rule) There is always someone who wants to walk faster than you, consider how you might be holding them up.

And if you are that person who wants to walk faster than the person in front what should you do?
Beep them?
Tell the to get out the f$£king way?
Call them a prick?
Tell them they're walking like a c%^nt?
Pass them really close just to show em their error?
Knock them out the way?

What we need is more road culture on the pavement

Ten million miles have been cycled on the Ken Bikes.

Number of ... serious injuries?

Zero.

Eggnog's arse when he arrived at Dunwich?

What we need is more road culture on the pavement

I've started walking close behind slow peds making threatening engine rev sounds and giving them a blast from my horn.

and giving them a blast from my horn.

Saucy.

Today me.

Right turn, not really paying attention, suddenly notice the lights are green, roll forward... Get beeped as I'm halfway across the opposite lane... Turns out I was looking at the lights for straight ahead not right turn :-/

What a dickhead.

^Facepalm :(

i think its time to start calling pedestrians, the amount of people who walk out in traffic is crazy. they moan when a cyclist RLJ but they think its okay to cross with out using a crossing?