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  • So gridds, by that token, Red Bull F1 is actually Red Bull Renault, and Torro Rosso is Torro Rosso Ferrari? That's an interesting way of looking at it. And what do you call them when they change engine suppliers, like Torro Rosso will do next year?

    I've never seen someone define a F1 car by its engine, in equal consideration to its brand...... Except for Ferrari, obviously. I learn something new everyday.

    Where have you been? It's always been like that.

    Doesn't the F1 standings and such actually list teams in this way:

    http://www.formula1.com/results/team/2013/

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