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It's none of my business of course, but this just seems an idiosyncratic choice of bike for the job at hand. I generally applaud idiosyncrasies in bike choice but this seems a bit left field for the sake of it.
You seem to be looking for logic in the decisions of Scoble. Basic LFGSS error ;)
Neither is this (slightly more suited thought), but it work;
Why not? Mike has explained very clearly exactly why it is: he broke alu and steel frames, and the carbon gives durability and comfort.
That's the biggest problem you have with choosing an aluminium race worthy frame for touring, it just isn't going to be that comfortable. You're going to have to make changes/compromises or whatever you want to call them, as christianSpaceman points out, to make it comfortable.
You may like to hold out for the HED Ardennes+ .. supposed to be a 25mm wide rim 21mm inner weighing in at 435g when it's released
Will wait for that one, cheer.
I thought Ardennes were too pricey for you?!
Alternatively, instead of waiting for the not doubt more expensive Ardennes+ to come out, why not just buy a set of the Ardennes Hope SE while they are crazy cheap?
http://www.hedwheels.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HopeArd
Also, what is this about? Why not?
Obviously HED being HED, it's pretty much a straighforward choice, the only downside is that the spokes aren't as easily replacable.
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Havent read this thread for a while so its interesting to see the progess. I really liked the idea of this build. Although shifting from a cheaper 105 CAAD8 with a longer headtube to a blinger CAAD10 seems a bit of a shift. But if you've got the cash and want to spend it why not.
On the wheels surely you'll want at least 32/32h if not ideally (IMO) 32/36h. I know it's light wieght, but surly you want tougher wheels. Especially if you're going to use such expensive spokes.
If it were me I'd build cheaper wheels; A719s to 105s/similar + cheaper spokes. It's early in the year so how much "touring use" is this bike going to get for a while? I'd just run it as a road bike for now.
Are you going for a longer cage Ultegra RD?
Also if you don't get on with those brakes, I'm forever meaning to switch my 105s for Ultegra so drop me a PM I you're going to sell them.
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Because I'm not carrying a huge amount of weight, you can get away with just the stock wheels, the only problem is that the Askium were too narrow for the tyres I want.
32/32 is more than enough, did the same tour with same spokes count and never even once the wheels went out of true after 3,000km and the bike is heavier too with dynamo and too much equipment (brought two cameras instead of one for example ).
Compact drop mean I can comfortably ride in the drop and the hood feel quite upright, this ironically got less saddle to bar drop than my Genesis! Which is why I calculated that the CAAD8's headtube was too long for me.
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That's the biggest problem you have with choosing an aluminium race worthy frame for touring, it just isn't going to be that comfortable. You're going to have to make changes/compromises or whatever you want to call them, as christianSpaceman points out, to make it comfortable.
Like I said earlier, Cannondale are renowned for producing the best and possibly most comfortable alu frame out there, also I have found with bikepacking, it made the bike feel slightly softer in respond (but still a lots more responsive than a lightweight panniers/rack combine), so it work out well in the end, according to my theory that I've yet to test out...
I'm looking at doing something like this at the moment, although I want to go ultralight in the backpacking sense, I want to be fully self sufficient. How much are you planning to carry and which bike packing bags do you have, recommend or will try for this project?
I am planned to be fully self sufficient with tent, sleeping bag, inflatable mattress etc. with the only exception that I don't want to carry cooking equipment which even the lightest one add a whooping 2kg worth of extra weight.
I have a Revelate Designs Viscacha saddlebag that's quite possibly the best saddlebag money can buy, and his latest design is even better addressing some of the fault I've found with the old design.
Framebag will be the Alpkit Stingray which is an amazing value for a custom bag that fit neatly in your frame triangle, I will not be having bottles as a single hydration pack is enough to carry 3 or 4 bottle worth of water which I'll insert in the framebag.
The framebag will have more compartment and room than the current one I got that's also from Revelate Designs, meaning I can carry my inflatable mattress, clothes and toliettes in it instead of the saddlebag.
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Are you going for a longer cage Ultegra RD?
Having spend time mulling over this, I realised it's far better and undoubtedly cheaper to just change the big ring from 50t to a 48t allowing me to have a bigger range without changing the drive train for a larger cassette*, longer derailleur and chain which will add up hugely.
I'm not racing or doing a sportif, so little reason to have a large chainring in the first place.
Also I love the range of the 12-25t cassette, especially with 10 speed.
*originally ride on 21-23t with 50t, now 17-19t with 48t.
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I am planned to be fully self sufficient with tent, sleeping bag, inflatable mattress etc. with the only exception that I don't want to carry cooking equipment which even the lightest one add a whooping 2kg worth of extra weight.
I have a Revelate Designs Viscacha saddlebag that's quite possibly the best saddlebag money can buy, and his latest design is even better addressing some of the fault I've found with the old design.
Framebag will be the Alpkit Stingray which is an amazing value for a custom bag that fit neatly in your frame triangle, I will not be having bottles as a single hydration pack is enough to carry 3 or 4 bottle worth of water which I'll insert in the framebag.
The framebag will have more compartment and room than the current one I got that's also from Revelate Designs, meaning I can carry my inflatable mattress, clothes and toliettes in it instead of the saddlebag.
I was planning the same but I want to take a jet boil (500g) so I can at least have hot tea and coffee and I can also take along packets of soup and noodles, it's not much weight for a massive comfort increase (for me).
I've been fairly seriously considering wildcat bikepacking bags, as they are seem to be very high quality from what I have read. I think I'm set on getting a cyclocross bike as a base as I do want to be happy off road, and I'm worried a normal road bike won't last being taking on touring trips. Probably with 35C marathon supremes.
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The great thing about the Wildcat bikepacking bags is that the main compartment (the dry bag) can be separated from the strap, meaning you can actually choose any kind of dry bag in different sizes (as long the strap can take it), and in theory, packing it away after a night should be quite straightforward if not easier than a normal bikepack saddlebag.
I cannot comment on whether it's better or worse than a standard bikepack saddlebag that doesn't have a removable drybag, jammy from Tokyo Fixed recently got his, and I'm anxious to hear how it is for him.
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Replaced the FSA chainring with a Miche one, bit uglier with the cut out, but least it's actually slightly lighter than the original, will have to move the derailleur down a tad;
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Someone else did it on a similar bicycle, to cover over 2,000 miles in 15 days (137 miles average), abet custom made steel and carrying a lots more than me, but netherless here it is;
My bike is a custom steel frame from Seven with close to 50,000 miles on it. I’ve a mix of Dura Ace and Ultegra along with Ksyrium SL wheels- weighs in at about 18 pounds. What if I broke a spoke? Well, that would have been bad. Faith in Vagueness!
I didn’t actually weigh everything, but my guess is that my gear comes in under 15 pounds. It’s traveling light, but still comfortable without spending an insane amount of money. You could easily go lighter, if that’s your goal. But for me this trip was about having fun and traveling light in order for it to be easier. When you go too light it starts to get hard again. And to me bike touring is all about fun!
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Bike weight is 7.9kg, not too bad, with a different bar, stem, seatpost and wheelsets, it should be approx 7.6kg, something to aim for with equipment weight limit at 2.4kg to maintain a 10kg overall weight (hopefully).
Framebag fit very snugly, but even so, it still wouldn't take the tent pole inside, so the custom bag is still going to happen, but so far so good.
(found spare FSA top cap to removed the stock tall cap, going to chop the steerer again soon, height is perfect).
Velocio should edit the title of the thread
He have more important thing to worry about.
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... fit very snugly, but even so, it still wouldn't take the tent pole inside...
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If it's just a tent pole I'd guess you don't need to worry about exposure to elements so is there another obvious place to strap it? (I'm thinking seatstays, or tucked under the rear bag)
Or else could you get shorter poles?
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PM'd for one, if you have a spare?