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^^I think I'm probably guilty of that, and I suppose it's just from jealousy on my part. I remember 10 years ago a £150 CBR mountain bike was a massive deal and definitely all my parents could afford, let alone me. I was just wondering how a 15 year old could afford a full carbon bike when my income began with a £3.60/ph job when I was 16. Still can't really afford a Seta now.