Polo Bikes

Yes, they are built by Marino. They used to be called AXL, same as Nesbit and Angelo have.

Asking peoples opinion about parts that you may want to use for polo is surely discussing polo bikes? There is loads of info on parts used in other situations but its nice to have polo players perspectives on whether those same parts that are rated so highly for trials or downhill are worth using for polo. Such discussion surely belongs in the polo bike thread

fine, fine, fine. I'll advise the lazy bugger with my knowlege that I learnt mainly by searching this forum and google.

You can buy cables specifically built for dual pull such as there:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hardcourt-Bike-Polo-Dual-Pull-Double-Cable-Brake-Lever-/181077221572?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2a290b20c4http://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5574889051&toolid=10001&campid=5336525415&item=181077221572&mpt=[CACHEBUSTER]

The tektro / promax is the cheapest and works okay but is BMX lever size.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mountain-Bike-Dual-Cable-Brake-Lever-Pull-One-Hand-Braking-Tandem-freno-bici-/230932304252?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item35c4a3517chttp://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5574889051&toolid=10001&campid=5336525415&item=230932304252&mpt=[CACHEBUSTER]

These are okay but a bit expensive.

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/paul-duplex-brake-lever-prod27276/

These are really expensive but will get you cred because of that (if not as previously mentioned dual brakes went out years ago). They don't have a return spring and are uncomfortable so can be a pain playing for a long time on your knuckles.

Aswell as the specific brake levers they are fairly easy and cheap to make your own. You can make your own parts, equivilent to the previously mentioned london mod, or just use the london mod. You will also need to make your own cable barrel holder using a little bit of steel rod.

If you have the parts and tools (drill, file, screwdriver...) readily available you can DIY your favourite, suitable brake lever in a few mins.

Please say if you have anything to add.

Interesting that your opinion on the Paul lever differs majorly from those who have used it for polo. Have you used it?

Once you pay that price, you have to wax lyrical about it whatever the experience.

Interesting that your opinion on the Paul lever differs majorly from those who have used it for polo. Have you used it?

Another PoloScoble™?

Another PoloScoble™?

Ha! Nail on the head

Interesting that your opinion on the Paul lever differs majorly from those who have used it for polo. Have you used it?

Yes, yes I have tried bikes with them on. They are un ergonomic, not got much curve for your hands you see and stick out a little far for my liking. Though I have not used for long periods they did feel a little stiff and I recall Mr. K telling me he was switching brake levers for one with a return spring.

^ This. The shape of the lever is nasty. I'd prefer to play with a Tektro lever despite the amount of lateral play in the lever.

Issues with cabling and brakes spring adjustment? Yes they do not have a rebound spring but mine worked fine after some tweaking. Pretty sure everyone else agrees. Only issue with it is the cheese like barrel adjusters.

I'll stick to a well designed proper brake lever. with a lower price tag, ergonomic lever, return springs, more adjustability and non cheese like barrel adjusters

I like mine, plus it makes me look cool and more attractive.

Are you all still bitching about how your cable-actuated brakes fail to actuate effectively?

So basically the lever shape isnt for everyone but if you are comfortable with the lever shape then they are top quality and comparable to the Avid Ultimates according to this thread.

Lots of American's use Motolites too. They are different to set up, but once you have them good to go they are easy to adjust. Every part is available to buy as a spare, so you buy them once and use them for ever.

I think it's a superior design in terms of braking power and the availability of spares and ease of communication with them is reassuring, should anything go wrong. Yep, they're a little more expensive, but they are made in small runs in a shed in California.

^what snoops said. Best brake I have had, once adjusted they are perfect. I only changed to disc cause we play in rain quite a bit.

I've serviced some and it's pretty easy. They're very powerful V brakes IMO and Paul stuff is excellent quality.

The spring system is very good. They dont have a little pin to allign them. Those pins and tension bars on standard v's break all the time.
You can tension the springs to your preference meaning a heavier or lighter pull. They can be very light to operate and the strength is incredible. Aligning pads is great too. They can move up and down and you can taper them in without having to loosen the pad bolts. So when they wear flat to the rim you can easily alter them to make them work better.
The design has been around for years and doesn't need updating.
Says a lot. You only need to read reviews of the best v's to understand Pauls up there at the top.
Othe than that Ultimates have a great rep.

Another thing about Paul Motolites is that you can run double brakes with a duplex lever and have a double-brake system that is lighter on the hand thana single Avid/other V-brake. Not that anyone rides double brake anymore, but you can apply the logic further.

All of those quotes are about the caliper not the lever.

you make a good point there
#doh

The lever is also great. Shape is good and the adjust screw can put it wherever you need it to be. Lack of return spring reduces hand fatigue, you need a well set up calliper to use a lever with no return spring though. I like running single brake on the duplex as it means I'm always carrying a spare barrel adjuster should I crash and break one, and I like that it shows part of the evolution of my set up in the empty barrel.

This still applies: "availability of spares and ease of communication with them is reassuring, should anything go wrong. Yep, they're a little more expensive, but they are made in small runs in a shed in California."

There´s one guy in Vienna using the paul duplex lever. I tried it out for couple of minutes but did not like it at all. The lever felt very uncomfortable.

I like running single brake on the duplex as it means I'm always carrying a spare barrel adjuster should I crash and break one, and I like that it shows part of the evolution of my set up in the empty barrel.

Great idea! Kinda wish i hadn't sold my old duplex lever now

I like that it shows part of the evolution of my set up in the empty barrel.

Keep the spare barrel with your spare tube and run a proper lever, dammit.

Thanks for all the advice everyone I do really appreciate it. I am sorry if I offended anyone with my question, I just wanted to come to a community of people where I would get sound and first hand advice rather then metaphorically stumbling along in the dark and getting things undoubtedly wrong.

So why is it that the whole dual braking system has become out dated then? Is it a performance related decision or just an evolution within the sport? As I generally assumed that hopping and intricate manoeuvring would have been easier with the dual brakes.

Lastly. Rincewind, do you need a hug? :). Just kidding, the extensive list you posted has been most helpful, thank you.

Ffs you lot. Mechanics thread >>>

Also running duplex with a single front brake. Thought about swapping it for a love lever for the chunky adjustment but I like the idea of being able to switch back to dual brakes if needed. Don't have any problems with the lever shape/reach but I can see why some people might.

In terms of braking power in a straight line, the weight transfer that unweights the rear wheel makes a rear brake almost pointless.

For braking whilst turning, I believe that using dual brakes would reduce the incidence of steering twitch when dabbing the brakes, but I don't understand enough of the physics to explain it.

Go front brake only and get to the gym so you can handle whatever your bars decide to do.

You've not tried dual brake >>>>>>>>>

You can massively outbrake someone FBO if you have a properly set up dual brake.

Bro war ;)