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I'm not trying to be the defender of vegetarianism on the internet, as I honestly don't care what anyone eats, but this point is stupid. The discussion was in relation to Kev saying eating cheap meat means you have to acknowledge your food will be pumped full of hormones, offal and gristle. None of these things are in vegertarian food, especially not if you make your own food (we don't all live off Quorn and Linda McCartneys). Pointing out that some animals will die in the process of harvesting food that vegetarians doesn't make any point and doesn't make the food non-vegetarian.