Doping

Having your name in Fuente's little book though..

Another great rider dead to me.

its a shame really. I dont know what i expected though

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but it beggars my belief that anyone can think someone who rode for teams run by Ferretti, Riis and Bruyneel and was coached by Luigi Cecchini is clean.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but it beggars my belief that anyone can think someone who rode for teams run by Ferretti, Riis and Bruyneel and was coached by Luigi Cecchini is clean.

Same policy for Mr. Armstrong was it?

Fair point with Cancellara's bosses though

No, it's the laboured way he's pedalling on the previous climb and the way he just moves from a grinding cadence to a seated 90+rpm on a 19% gradient whilst Boonen zig zags out of the saddle. No wonder everyone was accusing him of using motors

could the labored pedaling be kidology?

it does genuinely look like he is using a motor

Check the guys after Boonen come through even more ragged and slow than him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T7TOTu3MyU

Curious that Wiggins can now eviscerate him in TTs. #marginalgains

Looks like he has wings on!

Eviscerate is a bit of an exaggeration, smash him up is better, now he's off the turbo charger

Shane Sutton and Tim Kerrison are the two big guns behind Wiggo's TdF win. There may be others.

With respect, Shane Sutton was riding and coaching in the UK when you were still trying figure how to put on long trousers. An Aussie, for sure, but not really part of Cycling Australia.

[strike]An Aussie, for sure, but not really[/strike] part of Cycling [strike]Australia.[/strike]

ftfy

With respect, Shane Sutton was riding and coaching in the UK when you were still trying figure how to put on long trousers. An Aussie, for sure, but not really part of Cycling Australia.

With respect, that wasn't the question I was answering.

Why isn't Luigi in his poxy 'tell all' book?

He does say Cancellara was a Ferrari client I seem to recall.

That's brilliant!

interesting reading the comments on Millars latest blog on cyclingnews, basically calling out Rob to confess to his own doping, what he knows, saw etc. If he was on drugs id ask for my money back, his last major win was Dauphine in 1990, well before EPO was big in the peloton, he won jack all in EPO era..

British national champion in 1995... apart from that he was basically a super-domestique at Team Z for LeMond and Pensec then on to TVM where it was more of the same, then Le Groupement which was a disaster and Obree reports the team's doping program was the reason he left (though Millar didn't leave so...)

He had one positive for testosterone I believe, in the early 90's, which is common knowledge. He talks about 'health additives' and other coded language quite openly in a few interviews in which he frames it as a health thing in restoring natural levels but he doesn't openly say he knowingly doped.

I'm still doubtful he took epo-the guy was still riding clips and straps when he retired and was pretty old-school in some respects in as much he was really progressive about diet and preparation-he paid for his own wheels to be built with Royce hubs and used their Ti bottom bracket and was really meticulous with 'marginal gains'.

He's always been pretty forthright so I wouldn't be surprised if he talks about it openly sometime in the future.

I know he won the British title in 95, but i was talking about major European sucess. I always found & do find Millar a fascinating character, the book on him is exceptional. I vaguely remember a passage where Obree recalls trying to talk to Rob & him walking straight past, saying its tough at the top. He had a reputation as a prickly character with journos. But what i gather from the book, he is loved very fondly by people who knew him. Millar had a high bullshit detector, you have to love him for that! Straight to the point,no messing! His article called into the valley about Alp d Huez 84 is brilliant..

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but it beggars my belief that anyone can think someone who rode for teams run by Ferretti, Riis and Bruyneel and was coached by Luigi Cecchini is clean.

while this has been the major doubt about Spartacus, I always felt that his brilliance in the TT and Classics and utter inability to climb anything more than short punchy climbs was 'proof' of his lack of doping. That and hes also my favorite cyclist so I like to kid myself...

That Belgian Frenchie that won lots, Spartacus, Contador, Nabali, Cav, Wiggo Lance, and the Schlecks were doing coke off stripper's butts just a few weeks ago..

Is this frowned upon by the IOOCUCIWADADADA?

imagine this happening in Spain

Wenger on doping in football

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-arsene-wenger-slams-doping-1594892

http://www.gazzetta.it/Media/Foto/2013/02/09/cipollini_.jpg

He had one positive for testosterone I believe, in the early 90's, which is common knowledge. He talks about 'health additives' and other coded language quite openly in a few interviews in which he frames it as a health thing in restoring natural levels but he doesn't openly say he knowingly doped.

The 'rebalancing' that he talked about was unquestionably hormones. I doubt that he was on the Poe, as he was nearing the end of his career, and I doubt that he would have been willing to risk his health. However, only he knows the answer.