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  • Thanks for the feedback, the questions not one of money or fitting, it is that as soon as the weather improves whatever,s on, is going in the bin (til next year) and mainly that, as Clarkson puts it there's a "whiff of old fart" about full mudguards however well made.
    What actually suprised me was how much crap is hitting the lower part of the seat post and chainstays some of which ends up on the chain, and unless you've got another pet hate of mine, the chain guard then has a good chance of getting on your trousers (or long skirt)!

    so those old short mudguards are actually entirely useless
    http://www.lfgss.com/thread42444.html

    for me a bike the less accessories and no brakes the more beautiful the machine
    unfortunately you need lights and you need something to stop "arse getting soaked"
    some of the wooden ones are works of art http://www.lfgss.com/thread11567.html

    (on these you're still gonna get shit all over you're lower legs anyway)

    but still I don't want them om I have to have them

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