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@Ced
oh look what have I started, I was just being moody having sold my perfectly good cheap create bike that I've had for 3 years, now being bikeless, and now contemplating starting a build from scratch but knowing that I can even afford a frame with the geometry that I want, yet alone the parts to put on it.
I do however have a great thomson stem, and so pretty awesome fluo sidis that are a size too small. they just look at me in a mocking way and I am miserable.
Note to self: sell the pornworthy TT bike, not the shitty polo bike.